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4ePikanini ****
Age: 39 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 421 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 15:12 Post subject: 3.2 Di-D Upper Timing Chain Guide Shock |
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I decided to tackle the routine maintenance of the upper timing chain guide.
Boy was I in for a surprise
I'll let the pics and video tell the story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMp1LbEyFio
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MARKS600K1 LifeTime Member
Age: 53 Zodiac: Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 341 Location: BORDON HAMPSHIRE
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 19:51 Post subject: |
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err oh dear I guess the missing piece or pieces are in the bottom. Did mine beginning of the year the old bit looked just like the new bit. I think Gazziz rebuilt one that had a chunk like that out of it, but it jammed in the gear and did some valve gear damage and he brought it like that. I thought it must be just the plastic bit that fell off but that is shocking.
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Rico *****
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 652 Location: Malton, N Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 21:03 Post subject: |
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Oh heck - just be glad the missing piece hasn't wedged in the chain Did mine at 60 odd thousand last year and old one I took out looked to be fine. Guess it's just a lottery? |
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dave762 Newbie
Age: 80 Zodiac: Joined: 01 Mar 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Bury
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 22:10 Post subject: |
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hi did mine 80,000 old one was fine,but you never know better safe than sorry for the sake of £12 |
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4ePikanini ****
Age: 39 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 421 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:35 Post subject: |
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12 bucks ?!?!?!
I got mine from the dealer for just under a fiver. |
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Rico *****
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 652 Location: Malton, N Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:45 Post subject: |
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4ePikanini wrote: |
12 bucks ?!?!?!
I got mine from the dealer for just under a fiver. |
Ah yes, but over here in the UK the dealers think of a price then double it and add on the swindling gov stick another 20% on. |
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4ePikanini ****
Age: 39 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 421 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:47 Post subject: |
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Rico wrote: |
4ePikanini wrote: |
12 bucks ?!?!?!
I got mine from the dealer for just under a fiver. |
Ah yes, but over here in the UK the dealers think of a price then double it and add on the swindling gov stick another 20% on. |
Ah yes but at least you get some service back from the gov. The state of medical care and road conditions here are terrible. |
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Rico *****
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 652 Location: Malton, N Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:02 Post subject: |
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You've not driven our roads lately That said, we could do with a few more dirt roads here to make our 4wd's feel at home
More seriously we do have a good health care system and it does cost. Lot of whinging about the state of it at times but you'd have to go a long way to find a more dedicated set of people even in these tight times. As to our roads then they do get some hammer. We're a small island bursting at the seems with cars and lorries. Roads are bound to break up. Still, we do pay enough tax every time we fill. I noticed last night at our local fuel station that diesel had crept back up to just shy of £1.43 for a liter |
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4ePikanini ****
Age: 39 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 421 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:05 Post subject: |
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bloody hell. That's bloody expensive!
At least we still pay under a pound/litre.
I still find it funny that you guys insist on mph & mpg but get sold fuel by the litre |
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Andy(NorthWales) LifeTime Member
Age: 58 Zodiac: Joined: 10 Oct 2002 Posts: 600 Location: North Wales
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:05 Post subject: |
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4ePikanini wrote: |
bloody hell. That's bloody expensive!
At least we still pay under a pound/litre.
I still find it funny that you guys insist on mph & mpg but get sold fuel by the litre |
We used to go by Gallons, but as the prices started to slowly creep up the government changed it over to litres to make it still sound cheap, that way people wouldn't notice just how much they where paying for a Gallon... |
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tedsalad LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 382 Location: Watford
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 23:51 Post subject: Timing Chain Guide |
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As part of trying to rectify my misfire problem I am doing other out standing jobs while ive got the bonnet open.
Glad I did because the timing chain guide had completely warn away and the chain had almost cur through the plate, unbelievable have a look at the pics which are up on dropbox.
Big thanks to all the guys who have posted about this especially Marius and his easy to follow video. You have definately saved my engine.
Thanks
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt352/tedsalad/Guides.jpg
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt352/tedsalad/TimingChain.jpg |
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mick1969 LifeTime Member
Age: 55 Zodiac: Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 2651 Location: redcar by sea,cleveland
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:18 Post subject: |
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oh LUCKY you looks like the blastic bit may have came off then the chain has worn the metal away did mine a couple of year ago the old one looked ok but changed it anyway cant remember if theres a way to look down the bottom if so you could try something like a magnet to retreive the missing metal pieces |
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tedsalad LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 382 Location: Watford
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:39 Post subject: Guide |
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Looking at the ware I recon the nylon was warn away years ago, and hopefully the metal ware is so fine that any micro metal particles have been caught by the filter.
Cheers |
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sherman47 *
Age: 59 Zodiac: Joined: 28 Aug 2012 Posts: 18 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 17:31 Post subject: |
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After reading all the posts about the upper chain guide I decided to replace mine. Imagine my astonishment when I removed the rocker cover to find the guide gone! As in the picture at the start of this subject all that remained was half the guide. I presume the rest is at the bottom of the engine somewhere.
My problem, is now, the chain has now tensioned, as the tensioner has done its job and taken up the slack.
Is there a way of adjusting the tensioner so that I can install the new upper chain guide?
Any help/suggestions appreciated
Thanks |
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geodrome *******
Age: 56 Zodiac: Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 3357 Location: On the beach, surfin? Down under, NSW!
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 18:06 Post subject: |
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sherman47 wrote: |
After reading all the posts about the upper chain guide I decided to replace mine. Imagine my astonishment when I removed the rocker cover to find the guide gone! As in the picture at the start of this subject all that remained was half the guide. I presume the rest is at the bottom of the engine somewhere.
My problem, is now, the chain has now tensioned, as the tensioner has done its job and taken up the slack.
Is there a way of adjusting the tensioner so that I can install the new upper chain guide?
Any help/suggestions appreciated
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It is more of a slider than a tensioner. There is a hydraulic/spring piston that mounts on the side of the engine and can be taken out, I just took my slider off and fitted a new one. |
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