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Anyone tried steering idler poly-bushes?


 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 23:30    Post subject: Anyone tried steering idler poly-bushes? Reply with quote

Whilst trying to find an internal steering box bush I came across this, but I don't know of anyone that has tried them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shogun-Pajero-Mk2-91-00-Steering-Idler-Bush-Kit-SuperPro-Poly-/231290562346?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35d9fde72a
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used SuperPro poly bushes on my shock absorbers.

TDC Automotive is the eBay name of PRI Racing who are a good company and the SuperPro bushes have a good reputation.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a word of warning though.

Poly bushes can squeak if not lubricated properly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience, more wear often takes place on the steel shaft than on a plastic or even a white metal bush. So replacing bushes may not entirely overcome slack in the idler. This was the case in my idler.

When I fitted my new idler some few years back, I drilled, tapped and fitted a grease nipple to the arm, drilled  in between the two bushes. Greasing this idler along with the other steering points keeps water and gunge out, and I still have no perceptible wear after around 50 00 km.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

My idler has a grease nipple and I think it is the original one from when the truck was new.

150,000 km later and it is still good because it has been regularly greased my me and the previous owner. Up until I got the truck it had been serviced by the same garage that originally imported it and they have obviously done a good job.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 16:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes some replacements do have nipples too. I was just thinking maybe the poly bushes will make the steering more accurate and less tractor like.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 16:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure these poly bushes will have less friction than the original plastic bushes, but, greasing mine made a noticeable improvement in steering ease.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 16:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I think the technology used for the whole steering system is not much better than a tractor!

Mine is reasonably accurate but I changed the Pitman arm and all four of the track rod ends.

It also may be worth looking to see if the steering box needs adjusting
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 23:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what I mean, Its like that so its tough, but it means there are more moving parts etc. I just thought poly bushing everything would firm things up a bit. I'm looking at getting another shogun/paj and rebuilding it so I have a lot of ideas.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rebuilt my front suspension and used OEM rubber bushes everywhere (except my shock bushes) because quite a few people on here were having problems with poly bushes squeaking.

Apparently the squeaking is very loud and pedestrians turn round to look at you!

Also - the OEM rubber ones last much longer than the poly ones - and tbh my front suspension and steering feels fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 20:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reference the noise off the poly bushes. The lower wishbone and upper wishbone...you can't use the factory torque settings, the bushes are a lot bigger than the rubber OEM ones and therefore the factory torque setting causes the poly bushes to bind.

That makes a ridiculous noise.  I've been experimenting with mine, loosening the bolts just a tad so the wishbones move freely without that bloody noise.  They are awesome now...to be honest I feel like a fool for not doing it sooner. They are all nylocks too so they shouldn't be going anywhere.  It all held up great at the play and play site.  Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 23:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair comments. Its difficult to ask if the poly bushes made a difference as no doubt the ones being replaced were knackered anyway.
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