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jimmybond · Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 20:21 Post subject:

Gta1898
I always do the upto date common rail courses as software is always changing.
last course I did was euro5
you wont believe how many times the Injector has to fire in 2 crank revolutions.
I just assumed this would be the case for the dpf as a regen on my machine onky makes the fuel fire from injector into cylinder whilst piston is coming up with exhaust valve open so it pumps more fuel in dpf to help cook it up to burn soot off.
it holds engines revs up to any rpm it wants depending on how bad the counters are.
some nissanqashqai2 sits at 3000rpm for 30 to 40 mins then drops to 1500rpm until counters somewhere near 6.
it wants the revs up to help with extra heat as gasses from exhaust plus more fuel goes in as engine turning faster.

I dont actually know what the new dpf software does but there is a recall for it.
I have a friend who had a mistubishi franchise and he told me about it as he see I had a 2007 shogun.
I never knew nothing about it nor done nothing about it as im not really that affected by it.
mine at mo seems to be no bother.
I tow often and often heavy stuff plus long journeys.

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gta1898 · Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 23:30 Post subject:

Jimmybond,
Thanks for the information of injection campaigns and timings.
I'm going to book my appointment for the timing chain tensioner recall and DPF software recall tomorrow, I intend asking about what group of cars the software issue relates too and exactly what the modification is........the recall mentions a correction to the dpf learning program.
Graham

jimmybond · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:02 Post subject:

Let me know how you get on as I done nowt with mine.
I dont know dates it starts from etc.
to be honest I dont know how my mate found out as hes not been mitsubishi for a while.
hes now skoda as he said mitsubishi he only lost money with.
skoda he always claims pays out for warranty etc and they pay well for warranty work.
well thats what he claims.

gta1898 · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 17:24 Post subject:

Well I booked mine in for 10th March and asked whether the DPF software update was an update to all vehicles, it isn't, it's just selected ones!
Why just some cars need a software update and others don't is beyond me, afterall the ECU is common, especially when you consider the DPF software update ranges from 2008 cars to 2014! The dealership was unable to provide any more details than is on my recall notice.

Bogof · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 0:27 Post subject:

radiomike · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:33 Post subject:

gta1898 · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:34 Post subject:

jimmybond · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:53 Post subject:

Thats exactly what I say lol.
when I do regen its only burning off your soot you collected lol.

as for all dpf I think vw has got this sorted.
yes I need to do the odd 1 with a regen but not many.
I drive car until couters are low.
I think about 30 and its job done.
this takes about a 10 min drive whilst plugged in and its job done.
takes yonks before it comes back on.
car manufacturers need to copy that system.
most people with a late vw have never ever seen there dpf light.
its only old people who potter about.

radiomike · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 14:21 Post subject:

Good explanation of why a 2010/11 should not have problems, I spent a year tracking down a good low mileage one:

http://www.hussgroup.com/huss-umwelt/us/products/filter_filtration.php

gta1898 · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 22:17 Post subject:

jimmybond · Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:42 Post subject:

Gta I was thinking the same as you about ecu but 1 I had in for rough idle I could see plugs were different on ecu plus I couldnt even look at software as newer than my machine I use.
I use a carman which has all now from 2010 gone chinese.
if I upgrade software its carp.
I had to go back to 2010.
thars where im stuck.
its a big problem for me as do alot with the ford rangers (mazda)
Ford dont work on them.
theres no listing for a ranger.

another thing is I looked at a manual ecu and a auto.
stuffed there aswell as a auto ecu the gearbox needs to communicate with engine ecu to look at torque and airflow meter etc.
the software id is different.
I was hoping a manual was the same and the spare pins on pins not used was still producing the info.
I dont think they do as I was looking through the live data.

I have never had the dpf deleted out on a shogun but have had on citreon c8s etc.
a guy use to come to me.
it was £150 to 250.
I would drill 3 12mm holes through just the dpf, not the 1st core just the filter material.
I cant find this guy no more.
I think I know why.
cars are now failing there mot with dpf mucked about.
Government has changed the way a car is tested with dpf.
if its showing any signs its not working or been tampered with its a mot failure as this dpf is the sole reaon why it has cheap tax.
ie look on your v5 and you see its class.

but however like for instance the c8 and peugeot cars ive drilled are still passing there mot at present.
any garage would think its still working as still all in place.
I dont know how there cracking down on it but they are.

what you dont want is to pay 250 then to find you cant pass mot.
this will cost way more to put back especially if holes drilled into dpf.
this is why in my opinion your best just biting the bullet and buying a new dpf if you have to keep forcing a regen often.

Bogof · Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:04 Post subject:

jimmybond · Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:53 Post subject:

Ok I have a 206 wrc its a tax band k if I remember.
Look on your docs.
id be surprised if your near a k.
now lets look at a range rover l422 they come in and ive seen £700 discs in there window.
same as evos over a mr360.
now look at your price with a dpf.
I think that wins the argument lol.

Bogof · Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 13:39 Post subject:

radiomike · Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 18:15 Post subject: