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peteinchad LifeTime Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 15079 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:50 Post subject: |
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I think the MOT people concentrate on safety and some things don't come under their jurisdiction.
I have LEDs in all my lights except the headlights - no e-mark on them so once again they are technically illegal. But they have passed the MOT for four years now. |
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mick_n3 LifeTime Member
Age: 62 Zodiac: Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 203 Location: kettering
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 18:33 Post subject: |
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peteinchad wrote: |
I think the MOT people concentrate on safety and some things don't come under their jurisdiction.
I have LEDs in all my lights except the headlights - no e-mark on them so once again they are technically illegal. But they have passed the MOT for four years now. |
Mot wise testers won't look to hard as long a it looks right, there are guidelines but when I was doing them you use a bit of common sense, like I said it's the insurance companies that take the proverbial.
As Assassin mentioned earlier if was an OE supplier it should be ok, as a general rule of thumb if it didn't leave the factory then it's a mod even dealer fit options are mods that need to be declared I have a genuine Mitsubishi dealer supplied A Bar a mod that RAC turned their nose up at yet it was available as a dealer fit option, if in doubt declare it
Pete I did the same with Flux and got an agreed value just to be on the safe side, to be honest it didn't make that much difference with Flux, better to be safe than sorry should anything happen and I got a discount for POCUK membership, win all round |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 18:42 Post subject: |
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mick_n3 wrote: |
Pete I did the same with Flux and got an agreed value just to be on the safe side, to be honest it didn't make that much difference with Flux, better to be safe than sorry should anything happen and I got a discount for POCUK membership, win all round |
I agree Mick - Not just Flux, but with all insurers, get them to send you details of what they have on file.
I suppose putting different tyres on to the ones it was supplied with as new would also be classed as a mod.
I wouldn't have thought to declare my towbar but someone on here posted that someone ran in to the back of his truck when it was parked and the other driver's insurance tried to get out of paying because it hadn't been declared as a modification.
I wonder if you can get insurance against the insurance companies not paying out? |
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VIKI *****
Age: 45 Zodiac: Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 846 Location: swansea
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 23:56 Post subject: |
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Question is how you should know what is a mod what is not? Just to stick with tyres example how you should know on which brand /model of rubber was factory fitted when you have 10+ years old vehicle? |
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Rob546454 ******
Age: 33 Zodiac: Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 1111 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:50 Post subject: |
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As far as tyres go its only if you change the size.
The lamps look a bit dark, but if you ever get stopped just argue that the MOT tester passed it. Worst comes to worst be prepared to taken them off at the roadside and they can't really do anything. I don't suspect you will have any bother though.
Most police are not bothered about little things, especially the older traffic police, as long as its nothing dangerous. But obviously if they see you driving like a bellend they will use those things against you. |
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VIKI *****
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:16 Post subject: |
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Rob thats leads as to conclusions so as long as it's not spikes on bumper etc MadMax mods you may do as you pleased..? |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:39 Post subject: |
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I got stopped by the Police for having one rear light not working - despite having two on each side. |
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Age: 47 Zodiac: Joined: 14 Oct 2014 Posts: 15 Location: Gourock, Inverclyde
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:53 Post subject: |
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I have the rear lights fitted to my 2004 LWB and have been very happy with them. Been on the truck for a year now. Passed MOT with no issues/questions as folk have indicated above. Also had no questions asked by the boys in blue, whom I have driving behind me on a regular basis.
I would suggest informing your insurer. My insurer had no problems with them and listed them.
One thing, assuming these are exactly the same as the ones I bought, you will need to get someone to do a bit of wire jiggery-pokery if you want the brake lights in the cluster to light when braking? Otherwise they will be purely for decoration! I got mine wired up and you would have to be blind not to notice when I brake these days |
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VIKI *****
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Rob546454 ******
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 13:38 Post subject: |
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VIKI wrote: |
Rob thats leads as to conclusions so as long as it's not spikes on bumper etc MadMax mods you may do as you pleased..? |
Well obviously within reason and the laws of common sense. I am always about late at night so I have been stopped enough times. Never been stopped in the day. Obviously if your vehicle looks well kept and you haven't done anything wrong they check your details and let you on your way. If you make them feel unwelcome or your driving a pile of junk with dim lights expect bother. |
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VIKI *****
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 13:44 Post subject: |
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So more or less all good rule "look feel suspicious is suspicious " still apply |
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Wee_jada77 *
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:51 Post subject: |
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I mean the LED cluster in the link. The wiring loom you have factory fitted to your truck, for the standard fitted light cluster, will not light all the lights/LEDs on the new cluster as there is no feed to the loom for them all.
I can't quite remember if it was the brakes or running lights which didn't work but they just plug and play, so you can fit them and see what's what. You may well be happy with them as they are once fitted? Unsure how mine were wired in order to make all the LEDs work as I got an auto electrician friend to help me but I assume he took a feed from the rear bumper lights and wired it to the cluster loom. Allowing the relevant LEDs to light in the cluster when needed/appropriate.
Hope this helps? |
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VIKI *****
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 13:21 Post subject: |
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yes it helps most appreciated ! |
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assassin ********
Age: 64 Zodiac: Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: Wherever I Wander To -- Midlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:02 Post subject: |
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Pete:
Its easy to get an E marked light, the mark is on both the lens and body so they have two marks on them, to retain them all you do is cut the lens off the body carefully with a sharp craft knife as they use PU glue to hold them together, make up an LED plate and install into the light unit, bond the lens back on and instant E marked lights.
As far as tyres go, they have a load rating and speed rating.
If the load rating is that, or above that specified by the OE specifications from the manufacturer then fine; if the speed rating is that of, or higher then the manufacturers official top speed for the vehicle then fine. |
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