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Pegasus79 Newbie
Joined: 01 Jul 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 20:09 Post subject: Indicators stopped working, advice welcomed - Now Fixed |
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Hi All, bought a 96 Shogun LWB 3.0 last week. There are a few faults which I am working through but in the meantime I have a major issue with the indicators.. When purchased indicators worked all okay and also hazard lights etc. Car does have a towbar fitted which previous owner had not used for last 8 years. As I tow a caravan and the single 7 pin socket was corroded badly, I took it to my local trailer shop and they fitted a new 7 pin socket and tested it on a light rig in front of me. Drove away and all worked well, same day I stripped rear door and took out the corroded number plate lamps for repair.
Left car for two days and then drove it today, indicators worked with the alarm/ central locking. Got to the end of street and indicators worked for a few seconds then slowly stopped.. Now nothing when I try to indicate or use Hazards nothing lights up at any of the indicators and or the turn lights on the dash, weirdly the aftermarket bulb on the dash which should only work when towing does come on when you indicate. There is no relay clicking and the alarm still flashes the lights when unlocking and locking.. For reference the number plate light loom is unplugged still but can't see how this would affect the indicators?
Any ideas before I start looking for the flasher relay and or taking switches apart? Will check the wiring at the 7 pin plug which the trailer shop did, but it all worked when he showed me and I drove home around 10miles.
Any advice would be welcomed, Matt
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:41 Post subject: |
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It does sound like the flasher relay has died.
I doubt it is the column switch as you have no flashers with the hazard switch either.
Seems a bit odd that it happened after the trailer place did work on it. |
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Pegasus79 Newbie
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:52 Post subject: |
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peteinchad wrote: |
It does sound like the flasher relay has died.
I doubt it is the column switch as you have no flashers with the hazard switch either.
Seems a bit odd that it happened after the trailer place did work on it. |
Thanks Peteinchad, I had that thought also or maybe the Cat 1 alarm was playing up somehow as it now won't recognise the back door is shut and you have to lock/ unlock doors on the key.
The only thing I can think is that the flasher relay needs upgrading for the extra lights and towing pack? It may have had one when the towbar was fitted but in the last 8 years been replaced with a standard type and then testing with the light board/ connecting to my caravan has Finished it off.
Will look in towing section for any details on an upgraded relay. |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:24 Post subject: |
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My towbar electrics have a slave relay to take the strain of the extra lights off the truck one - maybe yours has had it removed sometime in the past. |
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Pegasus79 Newbie
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 15:23 Post subject: |
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peteinchad wrote: |
My towbar electrics have a slave relay to take the strain of the extra lights off the truck one - maybe yours has had it removed sometime in the past. |
Thanks Peteinchad, where is your slave relay located out of interest? Also anyone confirm if the Flasher Relay is in the driver kick panel behind the plastic cover?
Thanks, Matt |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 15:43 Post subject: |
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Flasher relay HERE
My slave relay is behind the plastic panel that encloses the rear air con unit. |
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Pegasus79 Newbie
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 15:01 Post subject: |
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All fixed now, thank you for the pointers Peteinchad
Turned out it was the flasher relay that was sticking (original blue Hella type) now replaced with new generic type of ebay for fraction of price mitsi spares wanted.
Also rewired my towbar electrics and used the main earth point under the rear seats which improved the lights immensely on the caravan. |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 15:39 Post subject: |
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Glad you got it fixed.
Apparently there is a connector in the cubby hole under the rear seats for the towbar electrics - one of those things I intended looking for but never got round to. |
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Pegasus79 Newbie
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 19:27 Post subject: |
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peteinchad wrote: |
Glad you got it fixed.
Apparently there is a connector in the cubby hole under the rear seats for the towbar electrics - one of those things I intended looking for but never got round to. |
I found the main loom that runs inside the cubby and also 2 connector plugs which the larger supplies the rear lights/ indicators etc out and under the rear of the car. Previous owners can used scotch blocs on these terminals which I ripped out and soldered correct 7 core trailer cable into, replacing the 2 x 1.0mm household flexes that had been used... Never ceases to amaze me the bodges you find. Used the earth behind it as said above.
Now got the job of fitting Cat Back exhaust system tomorrow - weather permitting. |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 19:45 Post subject: |
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ScotchLoks are wonderful inventions - they let people with absolutely no ability make a total mess of any wiring job. They should be banned! |
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