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IncredibleMrT
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 Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:22 Post subject: MK2 Shogun 3.0 GLS V6 1999 - Cobra 5370 - alarm/immobiliser |
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Hi,
I bought my Shogun a couple of weeks ago. It was sold to me with 1 single key - no fobs. I was told it had no alarm or immobiliser fitted.
Having had a mooch around over the weekend, I came across a Cobra 5370 unit in the engine bay.
See attached.
Also, to the RH side of the steering wheel, there's a little touch pin which i'm assuming is where I place the immobiliser dongle if I had one.
I want some security so this all pleased me. Just not sure where to go from here. What other bits do I need to find? Why isn't it set up? Is it just disabled by a fuse being pulled? Where can I get hold of the appropriate fobs, etc?
Any help or advice you can give will be greatly appreciated 
Thank
Matt.
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IncredibleMrT
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| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:24 Post subject: |
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OK, so it seems I STILL can't upload pictures :/ I have an upload quota of 1Kb
Makes things awkward.
So, ok, suffice to say the Cobra 5370 box I found looks entirely as you'd suspect - a black alarm sounder with the Cobra logo and a few other details on there.
Why am I restricted to a 1Kb image?
Madness! |
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peteinchad
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| IncredibleMrT wrote: |
Why am I restricted to a 1Kb image?
Madness! |
We all are!
You need to upload your photos to Photobucket and the link them to here using the "img code"
Instructions HERE |
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IncredibleMrT
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mick_n3
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| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 16:59 Post subject: Re: MK2 Shogun 3.0 GLS V6 1999 - Cobra 5370 - alarm/immobili |
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| IncredibleMrT wrote: |
Hi,
I bought my Shogun a couple of weeks ago. It was sold to me with 1 single key - no fobs. I was told it had no alarm or immobiliser fitted.
Having had a mooch around over the weekend, I came across a Cobra 5370 unit in the engine bay.
See attached.
Also, to the RH side of the steering wheel, there's a little touch pin which i'm assuming is where I place the immobiliser dongle if I had one.
I want some security so this all pleased me. Just not sure where to go from here. What other bits do I need to find? Why isn't it set up? Is it just disabled by a fuse being pulled? Where can I get hold of the appropriate fobs, etc?
Any help or advice you can give will be greatly appreciated
Thank
Matt. |
If it's a UK spec flared arch Shogun it will have an immobiliser fitted as standard from the factory (chip in key), the Cobra alarm was either fitted at the import centre at Portbury docks or at the selling dealer and should be a Cobra Optimum hf2, this is just an alarm as you have an immobiliser built into the key.
You can get new remote fobs and the torpedo override touch key (that's the receptacle on the right of the steering wheel) from Cobra or I have used Southern Car Security a number of times. You will need to get the serial number of the control unit, this in theory could be anywhere as to comply with Thatcham regs there was no specific place to fit it, normally it will be.
1; behind kick panel in drivers footwell
2; behind radio in centre of dash (this is where I used to fit them and where my present one has been fitted)
3; behind kick panel in passenger footwell
4; I have seen them tucked up above the glove box
If you can find it you can then either send it to Cobra and they will supply and code new fobs or as I did get the coding pin number from Southern Car and buy new fobs and touch key and do it yourself, they provide all instructions for you to do it.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 18:16 Post subject: |
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| Same problem here too, only one fob. I've got a new one but need to find the serial number to get the pin code. How do the kick panels come off? |
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| I too am having an issue with remote locking. I have a '98 v6 shogun (wide arches) I have one key, and a fob, it says '[i]sterling' on it, and has 2 black buttons. when i push them the little red light flickers but the car does nothing. Its just had a new battery fitted by the previous owner, do i need to recode the fob? |
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IncredibleMrT
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:20 Post subject: Re: MK2 Shogun 3.0 GLS V6 1999 - Cobra 5370 - alarm/immobili |
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Sorry for the delay - been away. Did some milage, and the truck didn't fail me. Love it!
Anyway, back to the original matter. It is a UK model i'm sure of it. At least the details all over the vehicle match the reg docs - not sure what else I can check on that score.
So, you think the immobiliser could actually be working? And that the chip is inside my key handle? How can I test that? I'd need to get another key cut wouldn't I, that wouldn't have the chip.
Also, with regards to the Cobra 5370 sounder under the bonnet, I also found another cobra box tucked behind the dash panels just where the fuses are in the driver's footwell. Also, a couple of cables hanging loose that I have no idea what they are. This must be the control unit you mention.
I'll do as you suggest and get the code to have a fob programmed, and hope that the control unit is still wired in and functioning. Also, i'll see if I can find any installation instructions for said box, and make sure everything is there that needs to be.
Ta.
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If it's a UK spec flared arch Shogun it will have an immobiliser fitted as standard from the factory (chip in key), the Cobra alarm was either fitted at the import centre at Portbury docks or at the selling dealer and should be a Cobra Optimum hf2, this is just an alarm as you have an immobiliser built into the key.
You can get new remote fobs and the torpedo override touch key (that's the receptacle on the right of the steering wheel) from Cobra or I have used Southern Car Security a number of times. You will need to get the serial number of the control unit, this in theory could be anywhere as to comply with Thatcham regs there was no specific place to fit it, normally it will be.
1; behind kick panel in drivers footwell
2; behind radio in centre of dash (this is where I used to fit them and where my present one has been fitted)
3; behind kick panel in passenger footwell
4; I have seen them tucked up above the glove box
If you can find it you can then either send it to Cobra and they will supply and code new fobs or as I did get the coding pin number from Southern Car and buy new fobs and touch key and do it yourself, they provide all instructions for you to do it.
Hope this helps |
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The factory immobilizer chip will be in the key. Any branch of Timpsons etc should be able to cut you a key, my local cobbler produced one for £55.
Personally I wouldn't bother trying to re-use the alarm you currently have fitted, by the time you have bought a new fob, checked the system and got it working again it's cheaper to have a new one fitted by a decent mobile service. If you go for a new model you may also be able to get an insurance discount [Thatcham only].
Of course it entirely depends on how and why they disabled the alarm, did it have a fault? Have they returned the wiring to standard to disable it? |
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IncredibleMrT
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I'm really not sure. I haven't had it all out to check yet - to be honest, it's all a bit cramped under there. Not sure how i'd get it out, or even if i'd get it back in again.
Like I said, to be able to check, i'd need to source a set of installation instructions for it.
£55 for a key cutting? That's a little steep isn't it?
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The factory immobilizer chip will be in the key. Any branch of Timpsons etc should be able to cut you a key, my local cobbler produced one for £55.
Personally I wouldn't bother trying to re-use the alarm you currently have fitted, by the time you have bought a new fob, checked the system and got it working again it's cheaper to have a new one fitted by a decent mobile service. If you go for a new model you may also be able to get an insurance discount [Thatcham only].
Of course it entirely depends on how and why they disabled the alarm, did it have a fault? Have they returned the wiring to standard to disable it? |
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| IncredibleMrT wrote: |
I'm really not sure. I haven't had it all out to check yet - to be honest, it's all a bit cramped under there. Not sure how i'd get it out, or even if i'd get it back in again.
Like I said, to be able to check, i'd need to source a set of installation instructions for it.
£55 for a key cutting? That's a little steep isn't it?
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The factory immobilizer chip will be in the key. Any branch of Timpsons etc should be able to cut you a key, my local cobbler produced one for £55.
Personally I wouldn't bother trying to re-use the alarm you currently have fitted, by the time you have bought a new fob, checked the system and got it working again it's cheaper to have a new one fitted by a decent mobile service. If you go for a new model you may also be able to get an insurance discount [Thatcham only].
Of course it entirely depends on how and why they disabled the alarm, did it have a fault? Have they returned the wiring to standard to disable it? |
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If it's a decent alarm they won't publish the installation instructions. It also depends on the 'style' of the installer as to how and where they made the cuts and joins etc. I used to make them as difficult as possible to trace for obvious reasons.
£55 is a good price for a chipped key. The cost of the blank, chip and duplication is all to be taken into account. You can get a basic copy for £5 but it won't start the car. |
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IncredibleMrT
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 13:00 Post subject: |
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Oh aye! I was thinking it was just a basic key that you quoted. Like I said earlier though, is the only way to test if my immobiliser is working by using a key that doesn't have the chip?
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I'm really not sure. I haven't had it all out to check yet - to be honest, it's all a bit cramped under there. Not sure how i'd get it out, or even if i'd get it back in again.
Like I said, to be able to check, i'd need to source a set of installation instructions for it.
£55 for a key cutting? That's a little steep isn't it?
| h4rri wrote: |
The factory immobilizer chip will be in the key. Any branch of Timpsons etc should be able to cut you a key, my local cobbler produced one for £55.
Personally I wouldn't bother trying to re-use the alarm you currently have fitted, by the time you have bought a new fob, checked the system and got it working again it's cheaper to have a new one fitted by a decent mobile service. If you go for a new model you may also be able to get an insurance discount [Thatcham only].
Of course it entirely depends on how and why they disabled the alarm, did it have a fault? Have they returned the wiring to standard to disable it? |
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If it's a decent alarm they won't publish the installation instructions. It also depends on the 'style' of the installer as to how and where they made the cuts and joins etc. I used to make them as difficult as possible to trace for obvious reasons.
£55 is a good price for a chipped key. The cost of the blank, chip and duplication is all to be taken into account. You can get a basic copy for £5 but it won't start the car. |
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IncredibleMrT
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 13:00 Post subject: |
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.... and also, you said any branch of timpsons - they will cut a key with the chip in and program it too? Never realised.
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| IncredibleMrT wrote: |
I'm really not sure. I haven't had it all out to check yet - to be honest, it's all a bit cramped under there. Not sure how i'd get it out, or even if i'd get it back in again.
Like I said, to be able to check, i'd need to source a set of installation instructions for it.
£55 for a key cutting? That's a little steep isn't it?
| h4rri wrote: |
The factory immobilizer chip will be in the key. Any branch of Timpsons etc should be able to cut you a key, my local cobbler produced one for £55.
Personally I wouldn't bother trying to re-use the alarm you currently have fitted, by the time you have bought a new fob, checked the system and got it working again it's cheaper to have a new one fitted by a decent mobile service. If you go for a new model you may also be able to get an insurance discount [Thatcham only].
Of course it entirely depends on how and why they disabled the alarm, did it have a fault? Have they returned the wiring to standard to disable it? |
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If it's a decent alarm they won't publish the installation instructions. It also depends on the 'style' of the installer as to how and where they made the cuts and joins etc. I used to make them as difficult as possible to trace for obvious reasons.
£55 is a good price for a chipped key. The cost of the blank, chip and duplication is all to be taken into account. You can get a basic copy for £5 but it won't start the car. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 13:05 Post subject: |
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| Yep. Have them scan the key to ensure they can duplicate it and let them have at it |
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