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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:52    Post subject: engine Reply with quote

Many thanks for the yahoo link !!!
(the engine isnt the same as in the GTO unfortunately,,,,,)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 16:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about that.is the evo the only car this engine was put in?
I would of though they would of used it in another car or they would of only had a production run of 500.i wouldnt of though that would make economical sence from a car company
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:05    Post subject: engine knocking Reply with quote

Barry the Evo is the only model they used this engine in. it seems mitsubishi was not that concerned about build costs. I believe they cost a lot more to build than they were sold for. according to one of the other board members 2500 were made. this number was verified by someone at mitsubishi......
that said, i am sure the engine parts were by and large off the shelf so its really just a matter of working out what/where they came from. Body and suspension parts are another story, and are getting difficult to find now it seems
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey riceboy,

Do you have pictures of your epoxy/poly bushings?  I'd really like to know how thats been working out for you, I've only ever seen you mention them in other threads. Perhaps a new thread with pics?

Thanks..
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a useful bit of info.i will be getting myself one of these one day.i was about to but the missus went and got herself pregnant.lol.
Im having to put it off for a while because of that.i had a swb pajero a few years ago and the boot was tiny and not much use for push chairs ect.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:04    Post subject: poly bushes Reply with quote

Matty its been a few years since we did the bushes, and about 80 000 km. still all tight. I don't have any pics unfortunately, and with the bits all in the car there is not much to see now. we used black, so it all looks completely stock.
by the way we also did the bush on the rear diff housing. thats also still fine despite some hard and aggressive driving.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

magn1t wrote:
They're nothing special to fix.
The crank and rods are identical to any other 3.5.
It' too hard for most mechanics but a proper engine reconditioner will find it no harder than any other job.

You just need another crankshaft or get it re ground, re size the damaged conrods, or get them re sized.
The cylinder block is actually different from a 3.5 GDI and a 3.5 DOHC but the same as the 3.5 SOHC found in the Diamante.
But the Diamante pistons are different.
So....finding a SOHC Diamante 3.5 engine would make a good start.


Very helpful info on the engine block. Thanks man!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engine 3.5miveс.
Unique connecting rods. And the bearing connrods.
Crankshaft at 3.5, 3.5 GDI (up Pajero III), 3.5Mivec have one number. The main thing to find a crankshaft. Because if the engine clattered, the 99% that crank damaged. And find connecting rods.
5K - a incredibly high price.
At the moment, there are already several refurbished engines, which are installed in a standard-size bearings Taiho. Everything is fine.

Practice has shown that even unreal to buy all the necessary dimensions of bearing connrods (not repair sizes, and those that are different in color, they have a difference in thousandths). Comes the answer from the supplier that spare discontinued.- For this reason, we set up a first standard size company Taiho, good quality of their bearings.

The motor died, it's sad, but you can try to repair, it is very interesting. And not necessarily to be a mechanic. We must have the desire, time, good tool, service and repair information, during repair attentiveness. And do not be afraid.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 13:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're all standard parts.....where did your info come from because it's all wrong?

OK your rushian?
Or rushing?

Where I live, you can build a Pajero evo engine for $1000 from scratch by using parts from a Diamante 30M, an Aussie 3.5 Diamante wagon and a DOHC 3.5 Pajero.
If you're fixing a broken one it's even easier.

Barry
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry, I am russian.
Yes, the size of a standard one, but there are four standard sizes. The difference between them in thousandths (0.003).
I want to say that we do not pay attention to these thousandths. Install one size bearings for all connecting rods.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe 90 wrote:
using parts from a Diamante 30M, an Aussie 3.5 Diamante wagon and a DOHC 3.5 Pajero.

Barry, do you have photos that have a comparison of connecting rods in engines that you listed and 3.5Mivec?

Left 3.5mivec, Right Pajero III 3.8 sohc.
It is seen that Mivec rod thicker than 3.8 sohc. But length and other parameters are the same.
Later, I can still upload photo with GDI rod.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 3.5 rods are all the same (SOHC, DOHC, GDI, MIVEC).

The 3.8 rods are thinner, lighter,  same length and interchangeable.

They're all labelled as "74".

The differences in bearings, (different grades) same for all engines. It's in all the service manuals.

That only applies when it's new, you don't get bearings in std size (different grades) from aftermarket suppliers, there's no point because mechanics don't have the ability to measure to that degree of accuracy and once the crank has worn a bit, it's irrelevant.
Same applies when the crank has been re ground to under size.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 14:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang on... So you can put 3.8 rods in a 3.5 engine?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 23:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 3.8 has 90mm stroke.
The 3.5 has 85.8mm stroke.
The rods are the same length.
The 3.8 pistons are shorter in compression height to make up the difference.
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