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Upper control arm bushing retrofit?

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:53    Post subject: Upper control arm bushing retrofit? Reply with quote

So a member did a refit a while back using the stock bushing and a larger metal insert. I replied to it in the Evo mods forum, but it's an older thread like many here...

I'm wondering if I have other options, besides a long wait and $500 CAD plus shipping for a whole new arm?

Has anyone tried burning out the old bushing and retrofitting an energy susp universal polyurethane bushing set instead?

Here's their page where you can order by dimension http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/universal-link-flange-type-bushings.asp . Seems like maybe a good alternative?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 17:01    Post subject: replacement bushes Reply with quote

Phil i had new poly bushes cast into the arms about 60 000km ago. They are still holding out just fine.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

This maybe a good alternative






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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a good plan really. Not tackled it myself yet but I believe the hardest bit is getting the damn arms off. I know someone that spent 2 solid days a side getting them off.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 14:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinson158 wrote:
This maybe a good alternative


Pics look great but... do you have more details? Where did those orange bushings come from? I assume they are poly? Do you have more details on where we can get them? For now I've made shims out of aluminum. Yes... beer cans!
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 13:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

These bushings makes one of the owners Pajero Evo. Although the manufacturing process involves more people: 1 turner, 2 - a man who is engaged in polyurethane and 3 - our teammate, owner Paj Evo.

Characteristics:
Polituretan - Shore hardness 83 +/- 2
steel inner sleeve 45
Polyamide (caprolon) with graphite (modified graphite), grade PA 6-MG

You can buy them only with us. Because it is its own production of Pajero Evo club in Russia.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 14:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinson158 wrote:
These bushings makes one of the owners Pajero Evo. Although the manufacturing process involves more people: 1 turner, 2 - a man who is engaged in polyurethane and 3 - our teammate, owner Paj Evo.

Characteristics:
Polituretan - Shore hardness 83 +/- 2
steel inner sleeve 45
Polyamide (caprolon) with graphite (modified graphite), grade PA 6-MG

You can buy them only with us. Because it is its own production of Pajero Evo club in Russia.


I am very interested. How much to buy two sets to do both arms? And who do I contact?

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four bushings for aluminum arms - 120$ US (At that price no one's interests. I will not. This payment is only for people who do it and pay for the materials.)
How much is the shipping, I do not know.

My contacts: +79247933999

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 14:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Anikin for the reply.

So with these bushings, do they come with everything you need, including the steel inner sleeve? And these are for the UPPER arms, right?
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 0:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we're talking about the FRONT UPPER arms that of aluminum. One bushing assy costs 1750 rubles = $ 30. Bushing assy: Polyurethane bushing in a metal case, caprolon sleeve, inner metal sleeve - It's all included in the price.
Bushings for the upper rear arm for $ 35 apiece.
The lower arms we put the original bushings MD112711 and MD112710. They are sold separately and there is always in auto shops. With them there is no problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 20:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to bring up an old post.

Has anybody managed to replace these bushings without replacing the entire control arm?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have access to a lathe, make a new steel inner sleeve and ream out the stock plastic bush to 22mm. from 21mm.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am embarking on this now.

Have just had the ball joints upper and lower reconditioned, $75 NZD ea.

Have basically exhausted NZ resources of any bushes available and have now enquired to have the bushes made in nolothane.  Will keep this updated on progress.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the control arms out for the most part.  The front camber/castor bolt seems siezed on one side though, it seems seized in the bush on the arm.  Surprisingly this is the only thing that gave me grief. Still giving me grief.



Have dropped an upper and lower arm to a SAS suspension specialists hoping they can source me some new bushes.  When I finally get this bolt out I'll drop the other side off for recond ball joints, then hopefully all new bushes at the same time.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got my arms back

Had to mould new ones in the end, cost me an arm and a leg but bushes done, had ball joints done aswell, but they could only do the upper, have to drop the lower off at Bricon engineering to make up a new pin etc.  not far now, am taking the opportunity to wire brush out any surface rust in around the chassis, and seal it all with a rust kill and paint.

I had a spare upper ball joint I found in a box of parts so I had that reconditioned, try and build up some good spares in the cupboard.
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