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MADHIGHLANDER · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 15:48 Post subject: SHOGUN 3.2 MANUAL

hi i got 05 3.2 shogun did
it starts fine when cold and ticks over fine but when its warm it wont start easy and dont really tick over
i would say its electric tick over model
also had new fuel tank fitted a few months ago so its not that thats causing it
any ideas would be great
thanks stewart

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mof000 · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 17:31 Post subject:

Have a read of this thread:-
http://www.pocuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=164516

There have been a few shoguns with this problem recently......

VIKI · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:34 Post subject:

It's sounds like injection pump problem Sad

but could be only a speed pump sensor that is failing not pump itself which will be a good news as it cost around 50£ not 1.5k like reconditioned injection pump..

MADHIGHLANDER · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:09 Post subject:

hi thanks for the reply thats what i feared it was the pump Sad

any ideas how to tell if its the sensor ?

MADHIGHLANDER · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:14 Post subject:

hi thanks for the reply
i guess its new pump Crying or Very sad

therers no engine management light on so guess the sensors be ok Sad

VIKI · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 13:09 Post subject:

Mine 1st 3.2 don't show engine fault and pump was giving up even pass with flying colours a MMC dealer health check Sad

try to connect it to MUT diagnostic PC, other method is just replace sensor which will cost around 50£ from MMC dealer dealer Sad

still less than a reconditioned pump...

MADHIGHLANDER · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 13:49 Post subject:

yeah its going into local garage to see if they can tell which Sad

he was thinking theres 2 solenoid s at bottom of pump but hes not sure he will check it out he says
guess wallet going to get lot lighter what ever it is :'(

VIKI · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 13:57 Post subject:

There are 2 sensors on a pump which as far as I know are both the same so you should be able to buy 1 and then replace top 1 and check if that helps, then replace bottom 1 with the same new one and checked if none of that will help then I am afraid it's a pump head that will need to be replaced Sad

which leads to reconditioned pump fitting conclusion Sad

hopefully it will be only a sensor problem as it's lower parts and labour costs. Keep as updated on work progress for future reference /guidelines for other users. All best!

MADHIGHLANDER · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 14:00 Post subject:

yeah i will keep yous updated on what they find Smile

draganlfc · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 22:47 Post subject:

I am looking for rust free 3.2 did lwb manual
If it is fuel pump that's knackered and you decide you want to sell it
Let me know please

VIKI · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:41 Post subject:

It won't be easy to not only find a rust free but manual as well, but good luck with that!

draganlfc · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 14:39 Post subject:

I have gone and seen few manuals,and they all have large amount of
rust
why do I want manual?

as I will convert trouble zexel vrz pump for Bosch ve pump
and have a good car with good fuel pump
I have converted audi 5 cylinder 2.5 tdi from edc to mechanical pump
and build for others
shogun pump would get 12mm pump head So it can supply enough fuel
it can be easy done and it has been done
it will work good on manual 3.2 did
as I don't know auto box behaviour and would it change gears with ve pump Its not worth a risk
all the bits for building a pump a ready
just need a car
it has been done there is a man on you tube under name pajero bosch ve
with manual ve bosch pump
don't need half a stuff on engine,air and fuel and it runs
12mm pump head,with not to aggressive pump cam plate will push enough fuel for over 250bhp on 4 cylinder
even 11 mm pump will give same power and torque as standard did
just need a car now

mof000 · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 17:44 Post subject:

Sounds like a good project!
I hope you start a new thread up on this!
ATB!

VIKI · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 17:54 Post subject:

That sounds like possible injection pump problems solution! I be watching that, any chances so you will start new tread just for that? When we should expect some more details about it?

draganlfc · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 21:30 Post subject:

it is good cheep solutions
I just need to find a car to fit it on
our know it will work on car with manual gearbox box
as there is no way of ecu can do anything
as you don't need air flow metar,boost pressure sensor ,imer flaps etc,the tf035hl 14-6 fitted to 3.2did is internal waistgate by spring pressures of it hast to go run ,drive,it will bring light on but who cares
lad on you tube ,his is on auto but dose it change gears as it should.
I don't know how 5 speed mits auto box works
on 4 speed auto on mk2 there is tps on Pump to let it know position on throttle
it's a good think if doing 3.2did transplant in to mk2 paj,or even my mk1
it never crossed my mind until other day ones I seen opening pressure of 3.2 did injectors 180bar 1st stage and 240 2nd

emission for mot,pull max fuel screw out to reduce fuel and it will pass perfectly
I need to find manual shogun
or if I do a pump up if anyone has auto one with knacked pump and fancy fitting it to see how gearbox works?