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4th gen differences vs 3rd gen

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 18:55    Post subject: 4th gen differences vs 3rd gen Reply with quote

Hi. You guys have provided me with lots of useful info in the past. Hoping to glean a little more.

Have done some reading and not found much in the way of specifics. Is a 4th gen essentially just a face lifted 3rd gen with TCS pretty much. Or is there more to it?

I guess I'd like to know the reasons for going for a 4th Gen over a 3rd Gen if age is taken out of the equation?

Also for either gen was there ever an 'off road' package or anything? Ie a trim or variant more aimed at off roading. Or are they all equal?

And which if any had locking rear diffs?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 23:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the mk4 has had the bugs worked out of the fuel pump. Doesn't cost upwards of £3k to fix it like the mk3.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, the fuel pump doesn't give issues. Essentially the gen 4 is a gen 3 underneath with running gear etc. The gen 3 is generally agreed to be better put together than the gen 4. I struggle with my gen 4 and all it's dash rattles and creaks and groans. Then I drive it on the seal and for such a big heavy vehicle man it's impressive.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 16:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dmcmylor wrote:
I know the mk4 has had the bugs worked out of the fuel pump. Doesn't cost upwards of £3k to fix it like the mk3.
any more reference/info to the fuel pump issue? £3k for a fix sounds pretty serious on a Vehcile potentially only costing that to buy in the first place.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 17:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

300bhp/ton wrote:
any more reference/info to the fuel pump issue? £3k for a fix sounds pretty serious on a Vehcile potentially only costing that to buy in the first place.


Yep - loads HERE

It has put me off buying one
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 18:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any more reference/info to the fuel pump issue? £3k for a fix sounds pretty serious on a Vehcile potentially only costing that to buy in the first place.


Yep - loads HERE

It has put me off buying one


Thanks. So it's the injector pump then? And only on the 3.2's? And the consensus is all 4th gens have solved this issue or is there a cut off?

Have to say a risk of a £3k bill kind of puts me off too. Would probably be better spending £3k more and getting a 4th gen in some ways. Umm much to think about.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 19:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tank filler pipes rust and let muck and water into the fuel which kills the pump. Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so horrendously expensive.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite - it is a bearing failure in the pump itself that lets go and put shards through the pump. If you found one with repaired fuel pump then it'd bE a great vehicle to buy.

The gen 4 is different as it runs a common rail system, so far no failures.

Rotting fuel lines will only be an issue if maintenance is not regular, changing fuel filters etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 18:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Maybe a silly question. But when browsing places like eBay and Autotrader. How can you ID a 4th gen from a 3rd gen? What are the visual give always?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 19:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

The body is a different shape and the gen 4 has the spare wheel in the centre of the rear door, the gen 3 is off to one side.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 23:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok got it. It's not the body, that still looks rather the same to me. But I can now see the headlights are a different shape. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look on here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero# and you will see the differences. Most obviously are the front and rear guards. The dash is redesigned as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 15:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for another question.

But looking on Parkers there seem to be 3 power outputs for the 3.2 engines for the 4th gens. 160'ish, 187 and 197.

How do can you know which is which when viewing?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

167bhp from 2007-2010
uprated to 197bhp 2010-15 (I think)
15 on 187bhp
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can it be an chip Ecu power upgrade to get to this 197 horse power or is it not recommended as could shorten engine lifespan possibly?
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