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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 0:12 Post subject: Non Start |
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Hi guys,
Just picked up a 2004 shogun sport 2.5.
According to the previous owner:
Gave it to a family member who filled it with petrol, drove a few miles before it spluttered and died. Tank was dropped, cleaned and filled with diesel, new filter and she fired amd ran. Weeks later issues driving, smokey and losing power. Eventually leading to a non start and me buying it.
At the moment it just turns over with no interest in starting, Got it running with a spray of easy start and got a snapon modus onto it, no fault codes showing. very little showing on live data and it dies as soon as you try rev it (although you can feather it up to 3k) Is there anything in particular i should be looking for? the fuel pump seems to be buzzing quite a lot. Is there any way to check the pressure except an inline gauge?
thanks for any help. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 16:47 Post subject: |
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Check some of the basics first, timing of pump and cam sprockets.
Is the air filter clean, replace if in doubt.
Is the pump drawing air in the fuel, check for air bubbles in the fuel line from the filter to the pump by inserting a short length of clear plastic pipe, air bubbles prove an air leak at the filter or fuel line.
Your problems may be unrelated to the petrol episode. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 18:15 Post subject: |
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| trekker wrote: |
Check some of the basics first, timing of pump and cam sprockets.
Is the air filter clean, replace if in doubt.
Is the pump drawing air in the fuel, check for air bubbles in the fuel line from the filter to the pump by inserting a short length of clear plastic pipe, air bubbles prove an air leak at the filter or fuel line.
Your problems may be unrelated to the petrol episode. |
Heading out to spend a bit of time on her just now. Got some clear pipe and a hand pump to try bypass the filter head (always seem to lose its pressure) is there known issues with fuel lines?
Will get autodata fired up and check the timing at the same time.
The air filter isnt the worst ive seen but has been removed for the time being until i can get it running.
thanks for the reply.  |
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kenthepipe
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 20:27 Post subject: |
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The thing is when you put petrol in a diesel vehicle it acts as a solvent and reduces lubrication, especially if it was driven rather than switching off immediately, in turn this can cause damage to the diesel pump as the internals come together and rub, due to a non lube situation caused by the process of the petrol washing the inside of the pump.
I would investigate the pump, and go from there ? |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 0:47 Post subject: |
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So i think i might have found my problem.
as soon as i put any pressure on the pipes they gave way.
will get another wee while at it tomorrow and take a feed straight from the tank to see if it runs but the pipework was definitely an issue. |
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WOW !  |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 13:18 Post subject: |
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| WOW ! |
And sure enough that was my issue. With the clear pipe and hand pump rigged up there was more air than fuel being sucked up, lifted out the fuel pickup from the tank and fed a pipe in directly from the tank to the pump, and moved the return into a fuel can.
Had to give it a wee skoosh of easy start to get it bled the first time but since then its fired up every time and revs exactly as it should.
just need to find a replacement part to lift the fuel from the tank and get some new lines run and its on to fixing the other wee bits, but so far my £300 buy has worked out well!
Thanks for the help guys |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 15:51 Post subject: |
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| Well done, worth eliminating the cheap and easy possibilities first. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 19:21 Post subject: |
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| trekker wrote: |
| Well done, worth eliminating the cheap and easy possibilities first. |
Solid advice to anyone tackling any job! |
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