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kevin midgley *
Age: 53 Zodiac: Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 11 Location: portsmouth
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 14:19 Post subject: abs warning light |
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hello . i have just had my pajero in for an mot and just before it went in the abs warning light came on . i have spoken to the garage and they say they dont know what causes this and will have to investigate . can you help me on this matter or tell me what causes this to happen . the rear brake pads are in need of replacement is this linked ? any and all help is gratefully recieved as always ... kev |
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kevin midgley *
Age: 53 Zodiac: Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 11 Location: portsmouth
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 14:37 Post subject: |
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hi again . the mot also brought up thatanti roll bar bushes are insecure and have told me they may be able to tighten them if not they will charge £110 to replace them . can they be tightened or dwill they have to be replaced ? the abs problem the brakes work fine with no judder under heavy breaking . thanks again for you help kev.. |
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aaronbecky **
Age: 43 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 98 Location: devon
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 21:32 Post subject: |
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abs light is normaly a dirty or knackered wheel sensor on a car (not sure about a pajero sorry) if the brakes work ok you could always take the bulb out. |
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dpruk *****
Age: 55 Zodiac: Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 648 Location: Frodsham cheshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 23:33 Post subject: |
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If your paj is a mk2 you can read the trouble codes yourself Heres how to The pads needing to be replaced is unlikley to be related
As for the anti roll bar bushes they are easy to do and you can get them from milner off road, £6 for the front and 12 or 14 pound for the rear. If you can do them your self or get a mate to do them it will be a lot cheaper |
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dpruk *****
Age: 55 Zodiac: Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 648 Location: Frodsham cheshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 23:39 Post subject: |
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Also you wont get any judder through the brake pedal as the abs int working so it reverts to standard brake. Also if the mot center is half decent taking the abs bulb out wont work as when you turn the ignition on the light comes on and the abs system does a self test and if all is ok the light goes out. So they should fail it if the light doesnt come on and then go out or if it doesnt come on at all |
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El Ricko ********
Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 5453 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:35 Post subject: |
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dpruk wrote: |
Also you wont get any judder through the brake pedal as the abs int working so it reverts to standard brake. Also if the mot center is half decent taking the abs bulb out wont work as when you turn the ignition on the light comes on and the abs system does a self test and if all is ok the light goes out. So they should fail it if the light doesnt come on and then go out or if it doesnt come on at all |
but if a tester spots the ABS pump and plumbing he will fail it on the light not working..
other option is to connect the abs light to the oil light and it will go out when you start the engine..! |
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DevionRX **
Age: 36 Zodiac: Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Posts: 108 Location: UK & SA
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:58 Post subject: |
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Well even a savvy tester would fail it on the oil light, As its suppose to go out after a certian amount of time before switching the engine on. Remove the abs modulator and the bulb. This is enought to classify the car as a non abs model (as long as the car wasnt standard with abs). Hubs/Sensors are not enought to class the car as having abs. You do really need to remove the computer aswell but as thats hidden away your fine. |
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dpruk *****
Age: 55 Zodiac: Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 648 Location: Frodsham cheshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 0:06 Post subject: |
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austinsevenuk wrote: |
dpruk wrote: |
Also you wont get any judder through the brake pedal as the abs int working so it reverts to standard brake. Also if the mot center is half decent taking the abs bulb out wont work as when you turn the ignition on the light comes on and the abs system does a self test and if all is ok the light goes out. So they should fail it if the light doesnt come on and then go out or if it doesnt come on at all |
but if a tester spots the ABS pump and plumbing he will fail it on the light not working..
other option is to connect the abs light to the oil light and it will go out when you start the engine..! |
Thats why I said "or if it doesnt come on at all"
DevionRX this would work but may have implications if your insurance company checks your cars after an accident |
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kevin midgley *
Age: 53 Zodiac: Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 11 Location: portsmouth
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 19:13 Post subject: |
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thank you for all your help on this . the garage i use did a good job and sorted this problem out for me ..so back on the road and loving it ... |
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josephheaven *
Age: 52 Zodiac: Joined: 22 Nov 2016 Posts: 22 Location: Hay on Wye
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 22:32 Post subject: FIXED with sensor, but no ABS dash light?? |
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OK, so veering slightly off topic:
My 2005 V6 Shogun Sport developed an issue where the ABS seemed to kick in when parking or going at walking speed. (This was around the time my mate fitted new front pads). This meant initially that the ABS light came on intermittently, and then permenantly and I just disconnected the ABS until recently when I decided to get new tyres and fix it for winter.
My mates several digs systems were unable to read the ABS computer, though could read the engine codes OK. He said he thought the control unit might be knackered so I looked up a local Mitsi specialist with a proper diagnostic machine and went round. He found 30+ codes on the ABS! Said, don't worry I'll clear them and we'll drive it up and down. Turned out that the rear passenger sensor thought the wheel had locked at below 5mph so was kicking in a little ABS action. Bought new sensor off ebay guaranteed for two years, fitted it in 10min, boom, no ABS light and ABS seems to function OK!
BUT, since doing this, the ABS light on the dash does not illuminate on ignition for a few seconds as it should, and doesn't light when I skid to get the ABS to work!?!?!?
Any ideas before I have to go get it on the computer again??? I tried a cheep ODB2 thing on my phone, disconnected the battery overnight, but still no ABS light, ever! |
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josephheaven *
Age: 52 Zodiac: Joined: 22 Nov 2016 Posts: 22 Location: Hay on Wye
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 23:28 Post subject: |
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So, I went to get proper diagnosis from Mitsi approved garage locally, they did it free and said that the rear lh wheel was appearing stationary at below 5mph so the ABS was kicking in.
£13 for a pattern part (guaranteed for 12 months) and after 10 min of fitting, the ABS seemed to function normally and no longer kicked in at low speed but worked fine in skid conditions. HOWEVER, the ABS light was not lighting for a few seconds on startup, then appeared to do so very faintly. This made me think connections so I opened up every connection n relay plug, cleaned and sprayed with GT85, a light oil and water dispersant I use on my bikes, and this has much improved the brightnesss of the lights.
One of the two relays right by the ABS unit bolted to the body just in front of it (the one nearest the front of the car) was particularly badly corroded, so extra clean and a light tap with hammer seemed to almost restore normal ABS light behaviour. I've found a replacement on ebay (new, in packaging, original part) for a tenner and ordered it.
Anyway, reports are that the main ABS units on these trucks RARELY fail and it is almost always sensors or relays/dodgy electrical connections. My advise, find a friendly Mitsi authorised place with proper diagnostics. I'm now taking my V6 there in Jan for a full belt and cooling system service (inc cambelt), £480 inc an extra hour 'just in case' and they'll check the car over whilst they are at it.
Also fitted Maxxis 771 tyres to standard rims, they are brilliant tyres. |
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