The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club®

[ajonty]

Hi there
How does the Ride height system work ??
Are there air bags at rear coil springs and Whats at the front?? been torsion bar I dont know how
that will work
I just fancy putting the system on my Shogun mk2 swb
Thanks
JONTY

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[stemac33]

hi there as far as i know there is no ride height system on the shoguns.  There is a adjustable suspension on some but most have been taken off as the adjustable shocks are about £175+vat new from mitsi dealers and you tend to take your chance with second hand ones. Hth

[ajonty]

Hi there
The idea is if not too complicated is to take the system off the donor car Pajero or Shogun and fit it to mine
sounds easy if I read it quick    
JONTY

[rich r]

The optional adjustable ride height on the Pajero (I've only ever seen it on petrol SWBs, but that's not to say it doesn't exist on diesels or LWBs) does indeed use compressed air to raise the chassis. If I can find the model code for one with it, then I'll look up the parts that are different.

[Stutheitguy]

My diesel shortie has a button for ride softness - but it's broken.

Also, the actuators on the top of the shocks have mostly fallen off and dangle free in the wind.

The LED's on the dash in the speedo read that the paj is riding in Soft, Medium and Hard! All at once! My ass has never known such comfort!

I'll be installed ironman / ome shockers when the time comes (probably soon...)

[rich r]

This isn't the adjustable suspension softness which most Pajeros have, being talked about, it's the adjustable height suspension. It's not that common, but was an option (might have been standard on some models).

You know if you've got it because there's a little picture of a Pajero on the rev counter with a light under it to indicate 'high' or 'normal' suspension height. It drops back to 'normal' above a certain speed.

[REVOGEL]

I want it, I want it, please where can I get it,      
I am of course speaking of adjustable height,  before all the lewd remarks come flooding in.  

[ajonty]

[ajonty]

OOHHH I forgot
Tong pay and play is on this Sunday if any one is interested I am there already    
JONTY

[rich r]

By lift the chassis I mean it lifts the chassis up on the suspension. Considering the wheels to be static, the suspension is static too, so you need to lift the chassis up from the top of the suspension. Just depends whether you look at the system from the point of view of the body or the ground I guess. I don't mean lift the body off the chassis.

Still trying to find parts diagrams - I know there's been lots of discussion of the system, so using the search facility at the top might help...

[ajonty]

Hi there
Well I am back on the Suspension lift stuff
[not the damper control ie s,m,h switch} This one lifts the car up 40mm? or so  
I have just got the LSD Diff fitted to the FRONT of my Shogun  
So back to the suspension project again
I found out that the system is on some of the MK2 SWBs Pajeros as an optional extra
So I am on a mission to find out the pros and cons    
Any help would be cool      
Thanks
JONTY

[andyn666]

sorry to butt in but where did you get a front lsd from?

Andy

[ajonty]

[stewjohnst]

I don't know about the Mitsy kit for the air suspension but aftermarkets do exist.

I was toying with it for the Paj and found this place

Www.airride.co.uk iirc. Can't vouch for their quality as not used them and it seems it can get quite expensive depending on how high/fast/often you want the kits to raise you.

I'd have thought a small compressor, like the one the rangies use would be good enough for the Paj, unless you're expecting to constantly be *beep* anout with the ride height for fun.

[assassin]

They are very simple, they consist normally of a small 12v compressor with switch, reservoir, and the control system which can move between two or more fixed heights, or variable height which is infinate.

The coil springs are replaced with airbags, torsion bars usually have a fabrication to allow them to be removed, and airbags fitted as coil springs would be, and this adds expense but may be beneficial to most users.

There are currently two types of airbag commercially manufactured, type 1 is the basic bag which is raised and lowered by the compressed air as it is a single stage unit, and type 2 which an additional bladder to control the ride harshness of softness in addition to the ride height.

Many current manufacturer fitted systems have many problems, so what are they? RR systems suffer from nearly all of them, their compressors are cheap and nasty, and are prone to smashing their internal plastics and failing. Air lines have a nasty habit of shearing at their connections which are usually compression fittings, and if most (not all) airbags deflate you have to stop and have the vehicle recovered as driving on deflated bags will damage them beyond repair.
Cheaper airbags are coming onto the market from Asian countries, and these are of poor manufacture and material quality which makes them cheap and attractive to many retro-fit companies, and purchasers alike, and many aftermarket fitting companies go bust with the warranty claims.
Off roading is generally not good for air suspension, often the pipes are not protected and can burst or fracture easily, especially in extemely cold weather and the extreme flex of 4x4's.

If you buy air suspension, then follow the basic guidelines, stick to quality airbags from the top manufacturers, and buy on airbag quality, not price, cheaper units installers often go bust so the warranty is not worth the paper on which its written. Select an airbag which can be run while totally deflated, if you have a problem it means you gan get home or to a repairer, even if it is at low speeds.

Buy an appropriate compressor with receiver, do not  use second hand parts to save money, often these are the wrong flow and pressure for many airbags, and ensure the compressor is a quality brand.

Ensure all lines and fittings are of a good quality, and are fitted with full protection to prevent off road damage.