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TOWING LIMITS (AGAIN)

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 17:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the swb shogun weighs 2500kg gross? seems high that

thanks for stopping your friend though.

seems i can tow 2800kg which is brilliant

after doing my test of course
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 17:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above 2800kg braked for SWB and 3300kg for LWB with max nose weight of 100kg
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 20:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

mwilcock wrote:
yes it says shogun mate

its grey

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manual

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Can't beat that rear diff lock Smile I love mine lol.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 20:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will 2nd that George Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 20:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think I have that feature! Sad
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 20:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

do the below help, straight from the manual



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 20:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only difference in my manual is the nose weight at 100kg
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 21:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
As far as i am led to believe the 750 kgs referred to in the trailer figure is the Maximum UN-BRAKED weight for said trailer I.E. regardless of what your towing it with you cannot exceed 750 kgs if it does`nt have brakes. As for the rest of it the wording regarding the tow vehicle being heavier than the towed vehicle, that is so you dont try towing something that is blatantly too heavy for the tow vehicle which was never designed  to tow such weights but left a grey area if no weights were available.
In the case of most 4x4 vehicles as we are discussing here, the maximum towing capacity does generally exceed the gross vehicle weight, thats why your 4x4 is built with a heavy duty chassis, a larger than average engine capacity, heavy duty braking system etc etc.
The issues that seem to be raising there head here are with  " Pajero`s" where there is no plate with a  "GVW" displayed this would be viewed as a technicality by most VOSA officers which could leave you open to a prosecution and or fine, i`m not saying this is guaranteed more that it`s open to interpretation, hopefully common sense would prevail.
All of this is only my take on it, but having 20 odd years dealing with vosa and there predecessors there a very fickle bunch.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 21:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pajero's don't have train weight on plate as they were not ment for towing were they come from so yes we can be finned if court towing!
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 21:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

davembp wrote:
Pajero's don't have train weight on plate as they were not ment for towing were they come from so yes we can be finned if court towing!
Not strictly correct. In Japan, like a l;ot of other countries, they don't bother with a towing law as they don't want to make as much money out of taxing people like they do here. Also the driving licences and entitlements are completely different to ours hence, no information needed on a car they didn't intent to sell outside of their own country. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 21:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="djheap22"]do the below help, straight from the manual

Nice one, thanks thumbup
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 22:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that firkhamhall!
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 23:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

I;ve got a Paj one and funnily enough I can't see the 2.5 listed in it!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

mwilcock wrote:
i know that i can tow but i want to know what weights

i need to know the max train weight of swb shogun 2.5td
i also need know the max braked trailer weight

thanks


Email misti customer service as yours is a shogun yours will have official tow weights

Tecnecliy a pajero ain't aloud to tow anything and could prob be used against you in a serious crash as it's not been given an official tow capacity in the uk. A shogun has a beefed up rear chassis section



Johhnybob

You need the tow lisence as your not takinging into account 7 passengers and luggage your max aloud is 750kg the old bill are getting hotter and hotter on it. Just the same way as having tacos fitted for commercial work.
Ie : If were you work ask you to tow a caravan that is stock or a customer and you don't have a taco fitted then you will get prosecuted

I know this as a guy I do work for was using a disco to tow a customers boat and crashed on m4 old bill were involved and because he ddidnt have a taco fitted he ended up with 6 points and a large fine

It's really not worth risking it for the sake of a 200£ test  the laws are only going to get tuffer
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

subzero wrote:
mwilcock wrote:
i know that i can tow but i want to know what weights

i need to know the max train weight of swb shogun 2.5td
i also need know the max braked trailer weight

thanks


Email misti customer service as yours is a shogun yours will have official tow weights

Tecnecliy a pajero ain't aloud to tow anything and could prob be used against you in a serious crash as it's not been given an official tow capacity in the uk. A shogun has a beefed up rear chassis section



Johhnybob

You need the tow lisence as your not takinging into account 7 passengers and luggage your max aloud is 750kg the old bill are getting hotter and hotter on it. Just the same way as having tacos fitted for commercial work.
Ie : If were you work ask you to tow a caravan that is stock or a customer and you don't have a taco fitted then you will get prosecuted

I know this as a guy I do work for was using a disco to tow a customers boat and crashed on m4 old bill were involved and because he ddidnt have a taco fitted he ended up with 6 points and a large fine

It's really not worth risking it for the sake of a 200£ test  the laws are only going to get tuffer


I read about the tacko somewhere, Why are they doing this?

Why is this country out to just keep making money all the time. They want us to be able to keep holidaying ion the UK yet barrier it up all the bloomin time. I just dont get it!
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