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dru0111 Newbie
Age: 40 Zodiac: Joined: 15 Aug 2011 Posts: 2 Location: colchester, essex
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 21:45 Post subject: indicators not working but hazards are??? HELP PLEASE :) |
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Hi All
First post on the forum
Just had a single mass flywheel and new clutch put in my 2002 3.2 shogun DI-D. Decided to take it to the car wash and get it fully cleaned as it was dirty all over. I said to the bar stewards not to drown the interior in water
Anyway after getting the truck back the indicators dont work, the screen washers dont work the windscreen wipers do not work on the first two settings and the high beam does not work nor do the side lights when you click the light stalk once... All these faults are related as they sometimes all work fine! The truck is totally dry now. I am thinking a possible relay problem?? I would love some advice. Thanks in advance. |
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dru0111 Newbie
Age: 40 Zodiac: Joined: 15 Aug 2011 Posts: 2 Location: colchester, essex
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 22:47 Post subject: |
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gegs750k4 ********
Age: 51 Zodiac: Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 6513 Location: Wigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 22:56 Post subject: |
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make sure the fuse box is dry in the footwell, or you could just go round the cleaners and ask him when he's gonna sort it for ya m8 |
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Rockymurray Newbie
Age: 36 Zodiac: Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 18:07 Post subject: |
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Did you ever solve this problem?? Mine is doing the EXACT same thing????? |
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Missing Lincs *****
Joined: 08 Dec 2010 Posts: 575 Location: Lincolnshire Coast
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 14:52 Post subject: |
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Check the fuses, fusible links and connections on the fuseboard under the bonnet for starters. If a group of electrical items aren't working its quite like either a common earth point or fusible link at the supply end. |
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Brettskisky Newbie
Age: 50 Zodiac: Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Posts: 1 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 0:29 Post subject: No indicators, sidelights & screen washers?? |
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Did anyone find the fault with this problem? My brothers has done the same....
Cheers |
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escort126 Newbie
Age: 48 Zodiac: Joined: 06 Feb 2014 Posts: 1 Location: ayrshire
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 20:15 Post subject: |
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I got the same problem now does anyone know what it might be
Al |
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ciaran_mo **
Age: 36 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Posts: 52 Location: cheshire
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 21:13 Post subject: |
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fuses is the first place to look with this problem, happened me with the radio, indicators and a few other driving essentials, turned out to be a fuse blown, replaced and no trouble since |
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Motorsportpd Newbie
Age: 45 Zodiac: Joined: 27 May 2016 Posts: 4 Location: Leighton buzzard
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 14:18 Post subject: Gen 3 shogun electrical nightmare, please help. |
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Hi all I am new to shogun ownership and so far it's not a good story. I have a 2005 Di-d 3.2 diesel warrior automatic. The car ran fine for a while then randomly on a short journey the indicators stopped working. I got to where I was going and the next time I started the car they were fine. This went on for a few days until they stopped completely. I also have no wipers in the first two settings, no side lights or numberplate light, no main beam or washer jets. there may be more but i have yet to discover it. Currently I have now....
Checked all the fuses in the cabin and under the bonnet with a meter and the fused links in the engine bay all ok.
Replaced the indicator stalk and the etacs unit on the back of the fuse box with no joy. The hazard lights work ok and always did although the flashing indicator for them does not work neither does the headlight warning buzzer.
I have belled out many of the circuits and they all seem ok. Does this car run a canbus system? If so where are the encoders for it located?
I have seen from other posts that quite a few other people have had the same issue, please one of you tell me how you fixed it. This is my main family car and I am on a very limited budget.
Many thanks |
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trekker ********
Age: 83 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Jun 2012 Posts: 5202 Location: Zimbabwe
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 14:45 Post subject: |
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it's a pity none of the above have come forward with their solution.
I would be looking for a group of earth wires screwed/bolted to the bodywork. |
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Motorsportpd Newbie
Age: 45 Zodiac: Joined: 27 May 2016 Posts: 4 Location: Leighton buzzard
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:51 Post subject: Problem solved |
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I posted on here a while ago with a fault on my 2005 di-d LWB shogun warrior automatic. The fault was when driving the indicators would suddenly stop working along with my Dipped beam, intermittent windscreen wipers, numberplate light, washer jets and light warning buzzer. Also the 4wd dash board indicator would go out. This fault once there would stay until the battery was disconnected for an hour and reconnected.
I suspected a can bus fault however the forum told me I didn't have one. After doing months worth of digging and enlisting the help of the master tech at my local mitubishi garage the fault has been fixed. My total cost for this fix was £1000 however I am posting it on here as it will hopefully help someone else save £900 of diagnostics and having the car dismantled to its component parts!
I can confirm that some of the later mk3 shogun run a can bus system the easiest way to tell if you have one is to pop your drivers side electric window switch out of the door card and read the number on the back. If you have a 4 door LWB with can bus ( or mitubishi smart wiring system as dealer call it) then the back of the switch will have the part number 8608A001, the back of this switch also has a different plug to the earlier mk3 models.
After changing my etacs unit and indicator stalk belling out all the wiring, removing the dashboard and checking every wire around the car and plug I gave up taking the car to a main dealer who had the equipment to read chassis codes in an effort to narrow down my search. Unfortunately the equipment would not communicate with the car when the fault was present and when the fault went away it would not see a problem.
At this point I concidered scrapping the car as mitubishi did not have an answer ether. Very disheartened I left the car with them and went off to become a can bus expert. Then one afternoon I got a call from my dealer who told me they had a senior expert visiting from the UK head office and would I approve some hours for him to look at the car. I said yes and after work went down to join them, I learned that the can bus didn't just read lights and wipers but everything so the strip down begun removing every component part on the car that has an electrical connection. Eventually after 6 hours we got there.
The fault was in the module that is located on the back of the driver electric window switch. With the fault hard on if you unplugged the switch everything started to work plug it back in and it worked for a short while and then crashed out. I went on eBay to buy a switch as they were back order from the main dealer (along with being horrifically expensive) and looked at loads for sale none of which had the correct plug or part number, eventually I found one in Latvia. 95 euros and a week later I was back at the dealership to test it.
It worked fine and I have been driving the car for two weeks without an issue. Key thing for any owner is if they get similar faults establish what electrical platform your car is fitted with. If can bus make sure the fault is present and start unplugging stuff. If your satisfied the switch is ok and no fuses blown then unplug the window switches one by one starting at the drivers door. After this disconnect the electric seats as they interface with the body control module. Etc etc don't loose heart you will get there. I have also found that the later mk3 models share a lot in common with the mk4 and quite a few of the modules have the same part numbers.
I have various documents about the can protocol (controller area network) so if anyone is still fighting with this fault feel free to PM me and I will see if I can assist. |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 15079 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 16:46 Post subject: |
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Wow! - sounds like a major job just to find the window switch was broken!
I am so glad that I don't have CanBus - I'm not sure if it has any real benefits.
Glad you eventually got it sorted. |
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Motorsportpd Newbie
Age: 45 Zodiac: Joined: 27 May 2016 Posts: 4 Location: Leighton buzzard
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 18:00 Post subject: Problem solved |
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The strangest part is the window switch worked so there was no indication that was the problem. It only got unplugged because it was showing in the can bus circuit and we were trying to remove circuits to rule them out. Just shows how over complicated modern electrics are. |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 15079 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 18:20 Post subject: Re: Problem solved |
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Motorsportpd wrote: |
Just shows how over complicated modern electrics are. |
That's why I'm sticking with my MkII.
Eventually modern cars will be unrepairable by normal mechanics in ordinary garages and everyone will have to go to main dealers for repairs to their self-parking, self driving vehicles - but perhaps that is what the manufacturers are aiming for. |
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Simonfathead *****
Age: 46 Zodiac: Joined: 17 Aug 2016 Posts: 737 Location: Sidlesham, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 19:54 Post subject: |
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I had a problem with my indicators on a MK2 Pajero and shogun the hazards worked fine but the indicators didn't want to play. What I found was once the hazard button had been pressed the switch inside didn't remake and this stopped the indicators from working. The circuit diagram shows the wires run through the hazard switch on the dash and to the indicators so if you have a duff hazard switch your indicators wont work |
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