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shropshirewolf · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Location: BRIDGNORTH

Hi All

First post and new owner of Shogun 3 door.

Delighted with my purchase but I have an issue with it that even my 4x4 specialist garage who serviced the vehicle couldn't pick up on the diagnostic check. Basically from cold the engine starts first time no problems. However, once the engine is up to temp or has been started and then turned off and you go to re-start it doesn't start first time. What happens is you turn the key it sounds like it has fired up but then dies but starts OK on the second attempt. Just wondering if this is a common fault and if there's an easy fix.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Jon

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4ePikanini · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 13:42 Post subject:

http://www.pajeroclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3035

shropshirewolf · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Location: BRIDGNORTH

Thanks. No other issues such as stalling when at temp just the weird issue of it starting then stalling when re-starting at temp. I can use this as a start though when I go back to the garage...

redfantasea · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:54 Post subject:

HI. I have the same issue on my 2003 3.2 DiD. Just bought it. Starts from cold ok and runs fine but takes two or three trys when hot. Also.... it always seems to start with a judder. Did you manage to resolve your problem? If so...how? Thanks.

shropshirewolf · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Location: BRIDGNORTH

Hi my experience is exactly the same. Takes 3 or 4 attempts when warm and then juddered on start up. It's never gone away and even having had it serviced it still does it and the mechanics don't know what it is either! I'd love to know!!!

Davie5316 · ***** Joined: 31 Dec 2011 Posts: 513 Location: Scotland

geodrome · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 20:05 Post subject:

If it sounds like it is bouncing on the mounts when hot starting, like a failed DMF. Most likely start of the low speed side of the pump failing. Caused by water in the fuel rusting the rotorhead. This is the most common part of the pump to go, and the most expensive.

Davie5316 · ***** Joined: 31 Dec 2011 Posts: 513 Location: Scotland

geodrome · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 21:41 Post subject:

I got mine in Feb last year. Did not realise it had a fault, finally failed in May this year. But had been playing up since I got it. Was told the guy that traded it in bought an Audi and was a truck driver. Had sat at the dealer for a while so could have started then or was why it was traded.

Davie5316 · ***** Joined: 31 Dec 2011 Posts: 513 Location: Scotland

Can't believe that after all the complaints Mits have had over these pumps that they don't update their Mutt scanner to pick up these faults so you at least know for sure what the problem is. Seems to be a lot of folk either fixing the pump to find out it's a sensor or changing sensors etc to find out is the pump!

Was told by Mits Head Mechanic to forget about it just now & wait until something packs in so they know what to change lol

sounds like the old mechanic I used to help, "just turn your stereo up lad & the noise disappears"

geodrome · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:59 Post subject:

In my experience the only way to truly know if the pump is faulty is to take it off the car and get it tested on the proper test bench at an approved Bosch agent. After it is off the test takes about an hour and cycles the pump through all its settings taking readings.

unclepoo · Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 16:30 Post subject:

I think the poor hot starting issue with the 3.2did is more common than mitsubishi care to say. Mine starts well when cold, just a couple of seconds of glow plugs, and it starts straight away, but hot..it`s not so good. I first experienced this when i was stood in traffic going to the coast, I`d traveled about 40miles so temp was right in the middle of the guage, slowwed in heavy traffic, so after a bit of slow driving, I turned off the engine when traffic can to a halt for a few mins...on starting it took a couple of tries...then the same later again in heavy traffic later in the journey.
One thing I have found is i now don`t have this problem half as much, now that I`m using a 50/50ish mix of derv and veg oil....cold start is fine too and the engine is quieter and lost its harsh sound when accelerating. Very Happy

redfantasea · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 21:00 Post subject:

I had forgotten that I posted in this thread and water has passed under the bridge since I did. I visited the Mitsi dealer for a new alarm fob. He picked up on the judder at start up and told me it was the DMF Shocked

. So I contacted the dealer. To my surprise, he collected it and replaced the DMF under the warranty. He gave me back the old one - free play and grease every-where. Before he collected it I filled the tank and put in a fuel line cleaner. Now for the interesting bit...... The judder is still there at start up, but not as bad, especially when cold. When hot, it now starts first time every time. I don't know quite what to make of it. Clearly the DMF is no longer the problem, so I guess it is down to engine/transmission mounts. Did the fuel line cleaner clear the starting fault? One theory is that the worn DMF caused a kick back which "stoped" the engine as it tried to fire up. Who knows? Last week another fault appeared. When cold, the tick-over is lumpy and it stays lumpy up to about 1500rpm. It dirves fine and the lumpy thing goes away as it warms up. All glow plugs measure the same resistance and take the same current (about 12Amps each). Any ideas?

geodrome · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 23:01 Post subject:

Davie5316 · ***** Joined: 31 Dec 2011 Posts: 513 Location: Scotland

Yeah, you could be right about pump failure. Touch wood mine hasn't got any worse since I posted last time on this topic. I changed to a SMF a while back and still have shudder on start up when warm. I think the pump or injectors may have suffered slight damage with the fuel filler pipes rusting away. Don't know about mounts idea, as it's fine when cold.