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scotcruz ***
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 0:28 Post subject: Rear Trail Arm Bushes |
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hi folks,
I need to change the both the front of rear and rear of rear bushes of my 4x4. I am going to get the PU bushes but wanted to check which are the correct ones as one look adjustable offset caster (Type B - by the looks of it for tracking) and the other is just set in centre (Type A)
Please advise
Type A
Type B
Also, is it something I can do by the roadside? (I have an impact wrench) or shall I get it done by a garage. Do you have to get the tracking done? |
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SteveW-DID *****
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:44 Post subject: |
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Its a complete nightmare of a job. Get a garage to do it. May be cheaper to get replacement arm than pay someone else to fit PU bushes. They are *beep* anyway ( IMHO) |
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scotcruz ***
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:08 Post subject: |
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Thanks mate.. kinda had a feeling it would be a nightmare to DIY. Gonna get my local garage to do it..
Anyone got any idea what ones on the above two pics are the best? Or they both the same |
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V12 rick ****
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V12 rick ****
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:00 Post subject: |
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As in the link you can get the bushes from millners around £90 inc p&p
They are the centre hole ones |
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V12 rick ****
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:07 Post subject: |
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Sorry just seen you have a mk3 as you see the link is for a mk2 |
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scotcruz ***
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:26 Post subject: |
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The Front of Rear bushes have been enhanced making it easier to fit. Only thing is taking the existing one out as its pressed in.
See Here > > >
Can anyone advise if I need to watch anything to do with tracking? will I need to get the tracking regardless? |
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geodrome *******
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:48 Post subject: |
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You will need a full geometry check and adjustment done. Tracking, castor and camber. |
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scotcruz ***
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 14:38 Post subject: |
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geodrome wrote: |
You will need a full geometry check and adjustment done. Tracking, castor and camber. |
thanks mate.. I will get the 4 wheel tracking done I have had the work done. |
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tom fenton LifeTime Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 16:46 Post subject: |
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Be warned you could be opening a can of worms here.
To set the geometry at the rear there are 2 adjusters per side, one does toe (tracking, lateral arm) one does camber (bottom arm). Chances are as per 99% of Mk3 Shoguns these adjusters will be seized solid. Once you have changed the trailing arm bushes the chances are that the whole lot will need adjusting to get it right. As it's a garage doing it you will be paying a good few hours labour for them to cut out and replace all four adjusters and their associated bushes.
Are you sure the trailing arm bushes need to be done? They are big substantial things. |
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geodrome *******
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 17:06 Post subject: |
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tom fenton wrote: |
Be warned you could be opening a can of worms here.
To set the geometry at the rear there are 2 adjusters per side, one does toe (tracking, lateral arm) one does camber (bottom arm). Chances are as per 99% of Mk3 Shoguns these adjusters will be seized solid. Once you have changed the trailing arm bushes the chances are that the whole lot will need adjusting to get it right. As it's a garage doing it you will be paying a good few hours labour for them to cut out and replace all four adjusters and their associated bushes.
Are you sure the trailing arm bushes need to be done? They are big substantial things. |
Tom speaks with great authority on the subject!
He changed all his bushes front and rear, if I remember rightly.
I must admit if I was to buy a new Shogun I would get the dealer to remove and coppaslip all the bolts at the pre delivery inspection. |
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Davie5316 *****
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 16:27 Post subject: |
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Sent you a pm on how to do it mate
As Geodrome says Toms truck was done, the garage that tried to do the job before Tom bought it *beeb* up the rear seating for the bolts when they used a burner & Tom or mick ended up putting a whole new back end on.
Garage will charge through the roof. Only took me & a mate 1.5 days to do mine and that was only on axle stands and three ton jack.
Hardest part is to cut the bolts. |
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tom fenton LifeTime Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 17:24 Post subject: |
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I swapped the entire rear subframe over. Whilst I was at it I rebushed all the arms. It was a lot of work but I built it with plenty of anti seize so should I ever need to adjust the rear suspension I can. |
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scotcruz ***
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 22:31 Post subject: |
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tom fenton wrote: |
Be warned you could be opening a can of worms here.
To set the geometry at the rear there are 2 adjusters per side, one does toe (tracking, lateral arm) one does camber (bottom arm). Chances are as per 99% of Mk3 Shoguns these adjusters will be seized solid. Once you have changed the trailing arm bushes the chances are that the whole lot will need adjusting to get it right. As it's a garage doing it you will be paying a good few hours labour for them to cut out and replace all four adjusters and their associated bushes.
Are you sure the trailing arm bushes need to be done? They are big substantial things. |
thanks for all the ideas folks.. now Im definitely gonna get the garage to do it..
Tom, you got any photos of the adjusters so I can fully understand as from memory the trail arm bushes had a straight nut bolt thingee. |
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