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Lost my CLICK not starting as normal


 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 20:00    Post subject: Lost my CLICK not starting as normal Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Pajero 1996 2.8 Auto

Usually on cold start I turn the key wait for glow plug light to go out and then wait for the big CLICK and it would start straight away.

Suddenly the CLICK no longer sounds and its very hard to start.

1. Checked the glow plugs all reading 1.5 ohms
2. Replaced the Bus bar
3. Replaced the Glow plug relay.

Still no CLICK and still difficult to start.

What else is in this circuit to prevent the CLICK

I haven't looked at the water temp sensor as it was changed last year.

Also my diesel pump was rebuilt 6 months ago.

Thanks

Jeff
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello. My guess would be the glow plug controller/ECU, which (at least on earlier models) is situated in the passenger side kick panel.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 19:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply

Mines EDC  type so im thinking its not the same as the earlier ones
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 19:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

this one covers your year ?


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK322045-GLOW-PLUG-CONTROL-UNIT-ECU-MITSUBISHI-PAJERO-SHOGUN-MK2-1991-1999/184003380700?hash=item2ad774c5dc:g:lUkAAOSwmdtdrZbI
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 20:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea where its located on the vehicle so i can check the numbers match?

Thanks for your input
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 20:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello. On mine there is a plastic side panel where the passengers left foot would be, it is under that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 20:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will take a look in the morning. I know the engine ecu is in that location but dont remember seeing another control unit there. Best to look tomorrow.

Part number im getting on megazip is MC856817 but dont show where its located

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good bit of information for testing the glow circuit

https://youtu.be/8oeMy6x9ftU
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 13:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to locate the glow plug control unit. It’s not in the passenger foot well that is the engine control unit in that location. I rigged up a test light to the bus bar and put 12 volts to the glow relay and it lights up straight away and when I cut the power the relay makes the big click. So I have a problem with the power supply not reaching the glow relay. I’ve done an ohms check on the coolant sensor and it’s reading in spec. So I need to locate the glow control unit. There must be on as it’s listed for my car on mega zip just don’t say where it is. 🤔
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 15:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOLVED!!

Spoke to a specialist who assured me I won’t find one as
It’s integrated within the engine ecu. Luckily I have a spare so
Swapped them over and the click is back and starting as it should

Opened the duff ECU and it’s cooked which looks to me like
A bridge rectifier (Melted it). I’m hoping now after changing the
Bus bar and relay this problem don’t return.

So location for glow plug control unit is infact your ECU.

Hope this helps someone

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 17:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Quote] So location for glow plug control unit is infact your ECU. [/Quote]

That's because yours is a 1996 model with engine management - older MkII s don't have an engine ECU so the glow control unit is under that trim panel.
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