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jaworski86 LifeTime Member
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 19 Jan 2016 Posts: 43 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 19:21 Post subject: Folding seats into a bed |
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Hi everybody!
I tried to look for this information everywhere but still didn't find the answer. I want to buy Shogun/Pajero/Challenger and I am wondering is it possible in any of them to fold seats down/forward in a way that will allow you to sleep in the boot? What is the distance between back of the front seats and the end of the car? As far as i know it is possible to lay seats completely flat in Challenger, right?
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Simon_W *******
Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 4881 Location: Watford
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 19:41 Post subject: |
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Yes, the seats in a Challenger go completely flat, but I don't think that you need to incorporate the boot space. I will take a scan of the Owner's Manual later and post it here. |
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jaworski86 LifeTime Member
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 19 Jan 2016 Posts: 43 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 19:49 Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot Simon!
I forgot to add that I am asking about 1996 or older pajero |
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peteinchad LifeTime Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 15079 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 20:08 Post subject: |
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Pajero owners manual on my Google Drive HERE explains how to do it.
You are welcome to download it. |
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KEVINBUK ******
Age: 67 Zodiac: Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 2001 Location: SW Northumberland
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 20:41 Post subject: |
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We used to fold the rear seats down on our Challenger and used the mattress from an old "Z-bed" in the rear and had many a comfortable night in there... Before that we had the SWB Pajero and although the seats fold flattish they make for a very uneven mattress and footspace is limited even with the front seats pushed as far forward as possible. Not recommended
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jaworski86 LifeTime Member
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 19 Jan 2016 Posts: 43 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 20:52 Post subject: |
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Thanks guys! I am looking for a LWB as we want 5 doors. We are having our first baby in may (and this is going to be our first car as well haha) and we think that 5 door model will make things much easier. So I guess there would be plenty enough space, lengthwise. |
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jonny ramrod ****
Age: 54 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 365 Location: cheshire..
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 21:06 Post subject: |
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I would recommend putting an air bed on the seats when folded into a bed, pretty uncomfy otherwise. Delica's fold into a nice big bed as well (but I'm biased ) |
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Simon_W *******
Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 4881 Location: Watford
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 21:38 Post subject: |
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jaworski86 wrote: |
Thanks a lot Simon!
I forgot to add that I am asking about 1996 or older pajero |
FWIW here's the Challenger seating arrangement:
Don't necessarily ignore a Challenger in favour of a Pajero if a good one comes along. I am really pleased with my 2.8 diesel auto. |
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White Elephant ***
Age: 47 Zodiac: Joined: 03 Aug 2015 Posts: 133 Location: The North
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:05 Post subject: |
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Sorry I'm having a technophobe crisis but if someone could link to the show us your mk1 thread I put pics of my Paj set out as a bed (mk1).
For a family space I would recommend the delica though, I have 4 kids and 2 large dogs and frankly our Paj struggles to accommodate (appreciate you don't have quite the menagerie I do) I must say I am no giant but I wouldn't want to spend the night in the truck unless I had to, there's barely enough length to lie down. Also we have a people carrier and it's a fact, they are better family cars by design. That said I take the truck for preference where possible
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Simon_W *******
Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 4881 Location: Watford
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:54 Post subject: |
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White Elephant wrote: |
Sorry I'm having a technophobe crisis but if someone could link to the show us your mk1 thread I put pics of my Paj set out as a bed (mk1).
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Here you go. It looks very comfortable!
(from Show us your Mk1, page 43) |
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KEVINBUK ******
Age: 67 Zodiac: Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 2001 Location: SW Northumberland
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:51 Post subject: |
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Simon_W wrote: |
Don't necessarily ignore a Challenger in favour of a Pajero if a good one comes along. I am really pleased with my 2.8 diesel auto. |
I echo Simon and would say that I would have another Challenger if a good one came along at the right time. When I got mine, I initially missed some of the toys from the earlier Pajero but to be honest I soon forgot about them and looked instead at the benefits of having a larger and more practical car overall.
Whatever you go for check it out thoroughly and buy a good one.
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Simon_W *******
Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 4881 Location: Watford
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 13:54 Post subject: |
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KEVINBUK wrote: |
...I would have another Challenger if a good one came along at the right time. When I got mine, I initially missed some of the toys from the earlier Pajero but to be honest I soon forgot about them and looked instead at the benefits of having a larger and more practical car overall.
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Kevin - as a matter of interest, what toys did you initially miss? The only toy I wish my Challenger had is cruise control. The peace of mind from a rear diff lock would be nice, but I'd probably never use it anyway.
I'm interested that you think the Challenger is larger and more practical. I've always looked at it as the Pajero/Shogun's smaller brother.
I've just discovered that there was a Challenger entered in some of the late 90s Dakar events. It had the 3.5 litre MIVEC engine from the Pajero Evolution.
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trekker ********
Age: 83 Zodiac: Joined: 25 Jun 2012 Posts: 5202 Location: Zimbabwe
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 16:37 Post subject: |
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You'll even see the "pillows" on the rear most seats.
When camping, we slept in our Mk1 lwb for around two years, draping a mozzie net over the whole truck so that we could safely leave all windows down through out the nights. One downside, we needed to store our goods in a 3m tent to make this sleeping space, until buying the roof top tent. |
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KEVINBUK ******
Age: 67 Zodiac: Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 2001 Location: SW Northumberland
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 17:25 Post subject: |
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Simon_W wrote: |
KEVINBUK wrote: |
...I would have another Challenger if a good one came along at the right time. When I got mine, I initially missed some of the toys from the earlier Pajero but to be honest I soon forgot about them and looked instead at the benefits of having a larger and more practical car overall.
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Kevin - as a matter of interest, what toys did you initially miss? The only toy I wish my Challenger had is cruise control. The peace of mind from a rear diff lock would be nice, but I'd probably never use it anyway.
I'm interested that you think the Challenger is larger and more practical. I've always looked at it as the Pajero/Shogun's smaller brother.
I've just discovered that there was a Challenger entered in some of the late 90s Dakar events. It had the 3.5 litre MIVEC engine from the Pajero Evolution.
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Nothing serious I suppose, it didnt have the fast throttle knob below the dash - I fitted the one from the Pajero ( a kind of manual Cruise Control )
I at first felt a bit exposed that it had only one battery - strange how you get used to two
It didnt have adjusting shock absorbers
No aerial half-mast switch
No "hold" switch
I feel there were other things but cannot remember... They were that important probably Winter Pack stuff?
As far as size is concerned, I was coming from a SWB . I neverr had a LWB Paj. I nearly did as the day I bought the Challenger, I had gone to view a LWB Exceed, test drove both and bought the Challenger.
Rally version looks Ace! |
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KEVINBUK ******
Age: 67 Zodiac: Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 2001 Location: SW Northumberland
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 17:31 Post subject: |
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trekker wrote: |
You'll even see the "pillows" on the rear most seats.
When camping, we slept in our Mk1 lwb for around two years, draping a mozzie net over the whole truck so that we could safely leave all windows down through out the nights. One downside, we needed to store our goods in a 3m tent to make this sleeping space, until buying the roof top tent. |
I never went safari but one time in the wilds of Scotland next to Loch Shin we returned from a day on the hills to the car and set up right next to the Loch. We used to stow all the camping bits beneath the car at night. That was fine until the mornng when the breeze had dropped and the Scottish Midge was out in force Aw man I got eaten alive retrievng and packhg all the stuff from under the car. If I had my time again I would have just driven over it all and left it.
Happy days
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