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Internal temperature; some thermistor values


 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 18:39    Post subject: Internal temperature; some thermistor values Reply with quote

Hi all,

I get bored to see -26 C all the time in my indoor temperature gauge.

I found that the sensor is a 1000 ohm NTC thermistor (in fact 1000 ohms gives 24 C instead of 25 C but my 1000 ohm resistor was only 999 ohms) . I didn't bother to make reverse engineering to calculate specifications (and there are blenty of those thermistors). Here are some resistances and corresponding temperatures:
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Ohms  Cel   Ohms Cel    Ohms Cel    Ohms Cel    Ohms Cel
15000 -20   5230 -10    2800 0      1750 10     1144 20
13000 -19   4700 -9     2670 1      1720 11     1100 21
10850 -18   4300 -8     2530 2      1650 12     1089 22
10000 -17   4100 -7     2400 3      1575 13     1044 23
9100  -16   3900 -6     2200 4      1500 14     1000 24
8200  -15   3600 -5     2100 5      1420 15     945  25
7100  -14   3400 -4     2000 6      1350 16     900  26
6800  -13   3300 -3     1940 7      1300 17     887  27
6200  -12   3000 -2     1890 8      1250 18     844  28
5600  -11   2930 -1     1800 9      1200 19     820  29

In thermistor it is insignificant which way you solder the wires. I found thermistor with a nut and that was very easy to fit.

-Marko
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 11:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Marko, these are helpful Smile
Question: I am still not sure how these thermistors work, let's say we use an 820 ohm thermistor, does it mean the MAX temp. that can be measured is 29C !?... and if so, what thermistor value is needed to measure inside temp about 40C !!!! In summer that's how hot it is in Cyprus Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Trig,

you need a 1000 ohm thermistor, thermistors are "named" with resistance at 25 C. So called nominal value.

Ntc thremistor is a component that gives high resistance value in cold and the resistance is decreasing logarithmically when warmer. Pajero temp gauge cannot show less than -26 C, max value is more than 60 C. The thermistor will be wide enough (i.e. -25C .. +80C), the temp gauge is the limiting part of the system. Here is some more values for warmer end:
Code:
Ohm   Cels
680   33
560   38
470   43
390   47
300   52
270   54
220   57
200   59
180   62


When selecting your component, first you need a 1000 ohm ntc thermistor. And if your supplier have temperature vs. resistance tables /curves select the thermistor that gives the best match to these values for example at 0C and 50C (50 C is about 330 ohms). If he don't have tables you can take one and try. It doesn't cost much, should be less than 1 euro. I bought mine at 50 cent.

-Marko

PS. You can print out this thread and show R/T values in your component store. They can select the best component.

1000 Ohm Thermistor <-- click to buy
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