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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 21:24 Post subject: |
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trickster,all is ok
have you figured out what mine is yet?
hint..has got an egr-no diesel
and the tyre pressuers are 30psi all round(loading) |
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 21:24 Post subject: Google Ads keep the POCUK free to join! |
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trickster *
Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 40 Location: NOTTS
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 21:57 Post subject: egr |
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cheers mate yeh its a v6, ive gathered that by you saying you wont have a derv.reason ive not gone for petrol is i hate doing the timing belts.speak soon ttfn |
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fat bloke ******
Age: 58 Zodiac: Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 1309 Location: East Hull, East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 22:53 Post subject: Re: caps and egr |
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trickster wrote: |
THIS IS TO MOREX4,I WILL POST WITH CAPS ON,ANDHOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE MOTOR TRADE,IE MECHANICAL,UK SPECS DO RUN RICHER,JAP SPECS DO RUN LEANER HENCE EGR,THE REASON FOR EGR IS TO RECICULATE EXHAUST GASES THIS IN EFFECT HELPS THE ENGINE RUN CLEANER BYE REDUCING NOX(NITROGENS OF OXIDE)TO GET A CLEANER AND MORE COMPLETE BURN,OUR MOT REGS ARE NOT AS STRICT AS THE JAP REGS THAT IS WHY UK SPECS DONT HAVE EGR.LETS BLOCK OFF YOUR EGR(IF FITTED)AND SEE HOW LONG YOUR ENGINE LASTS.PS I DID READ THE POSTS ,OBVIOUSLY YOU DIDNT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE READ THAT IM AN EX MITSUBISHI TECHNICIAN |
Just to throw a spanner in the works, I have a UK spec shogun WITH an EGR, and no, I would NEVER consider blocking it...if it fails I'll fix it. |
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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 23:31 Post subject: |
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fat bloke,you're just a git |
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Mr Pajero ***
Age: 63 Zodiac: Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 247 Location: Swansea (Wales)
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 23:33 Post subject: |
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Hi all,
I believe that if an engine was designed to have this device(EGR) on the engine then it should be left to do what it was intended to do and perform. As JayCee has already said if your Paj is smoking a lot clean the EGR out and replace it. I know a few Paj owners who have blocked off there EGR's and they have all said it cured the excessive smoke, but they are starting to have other problems and are considering removing the blanking plate. It just seems those who have blocked there's off seem to be the ones thinking about removing them.
Mr Pajero |
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fat bloke ******
Age: 58 Zodiac: Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 1309 Location: East Hull, East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 23:35 Post subject: |
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more x 4 wrote: |
fat bloke,you're just a git |
Soz mate |
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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 23:41 Post subject: |
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well,theres always one(why is it always you) |
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PoCUK Site Admin
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 3749 Location: S/W New Forest Border
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:40 Post subject: |
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Mr Pajero wrote: |
...I know a few Paj owners who have blocked off there EGR's and they have all said it cured the excessive smoke, but they are starting to have other problems and are considering removing the blanking plate. It just seems those who have blocked there's off seem to be the ones thinking about removing them.
Mr Pajero |
Ours has had the blanking plate fitted for about 18 months now ... no noticible power increase, (Mind you, We're not heavy footed drivers ), hard to say if there's an mpg improvement BUT ... there's no belching smoke AND we've flown through two MOT's since the blanking plate was fitted, with no 'fiddling with the fuel pump' that was previously required to pass the emissions test.
I haven't considered removing the plate once!
Simon |
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JayCee Events rep (Ireland)
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Posts: 1957 Location: Portlaoise , Ireland
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 15:15 Post subject: |
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BUT ... there's no belching smoke AND we've flown through two MOT's since the blanking plate was fitted, with no 'fiddling with the fuel pump' that was previously required to pass the emissions test. |
Based on the above Simon..
I'd say your Erg valve is jammed open..
I.E. .. Always dumping into the Inlet and thereby raising the emissions ..
Did you ever try removing the erg valve and freeing it up...? |
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COLIN BAKER ****
Age: 62 Zodiac: Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 324 Location: SOUTH WALES
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 19:22 Post subject: |
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Evening
When I bought my Paj 18 months ago,gave it a check over and found 2xball-bearings in the egr vac pipe.
It passed its mot in june, then I decided to check the egr valve in august,
It was a bit "dirty"but not stuck. I sucked the vac pump and the valve opened and closed ok.
Then decided to go all the way and fit blanking plate.
Did this and [by coincidence? ] my head cracked 3 weeks later
Head now replaced and all going well
Valve still blanked off, but still undecided about removing it
Surely by blanking it, it wouldn't have cracked that quickly ?
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HAD ***
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 133 Location: uk
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 19:36 Post subject: |
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I am puzzled ! Would the club sell blanking plates to us if the fitting of them makes it more likely to cause the cylinder head to crack, can anybody from the POCUK admin or on line shop please enlighten us, as I have fitted one about two months ago and if it is going to wreck my beast, I need to remove it RAPID !!! |
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Mr Pajero ***
Age: 63 Zodiac: Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 247 Location: Swansea (Wales)
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 23:22 Post subject: |
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Hi all,
As i have said, if the engine is suposed to run with it, leave well alone. A lot of thought and money goes into desgning an engine. All these so called quick mods to squeeze more power out of the engine and and then have a moan at the fuel consumption does get on my wick a little, just service them regular and they will give you years of faithful service. Remember if it's not broken , don't fix it...
Mr Pajero |
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Colin 31 ***
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 248 Location: Northfleet Kent
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:38 Post subject: |
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We did a lot of research last year due to a few head problems.
The results seem to be related to high egt's, precisely the thing that the egr valve is supposed to reduce.
If you have a heavy right foot, or regularly go on long journeys it would seem to be prudent to either:- (A) replace and refurbish the egr valve
or:- (B) fit a water/methanol injection system without the egr valve. See:- http://www.turbotuning.net/E/index.htm
If you drive with a light right foot, there wouldn't be as much of a problem due to the lower egt's in an under worked engine.
My friend has been running without an egr valve for over a year with no probs.
Colin 31. |
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kchsu Newbie
Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:06 Post subject: |
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The EGR is there to reduce the NOX emission.
In other countries with not so strict emission standard, it is not even fitted for the same engine. So is there a relationship in this case ?
I would say that "No EGR is the same as EGR blanking plate installed". |
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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:20 Post subject: |
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well,if that's the case,i would ask;
are the injecters the same?
are the fuel pumps the same?
and are the engines set up the same?
try buying the parts from mitsi and i think you'll find that it's not |
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