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seekay · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 23:10 Post subject:

When I spoke to C & E they told me I had to register to use the veggie oil on form EX103 & until they had received & processed the form I was not allowed to use veggie oil until they say its ok, so carrying a form in the glove box does not register you to use it, they will be looking to make examples if they catch you so beware.

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mungodog · ***** Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 939 Location: South Wales

I agree with the above comment. Be wary of just carrying EX103, this doesn't give you the right to use veg oil. Much better to carry the other form with receipts so that officials can see what you've bought and when. Register using EX103, keep the other form up to date and submit it each month. Of course C&E rely on your honesty in declaring the amount used, but nobody would lie would they?

sparklelard · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 21:05 Post subject:

I spoke to C&E this morning. Nice lady. I asked her how often the return was required and she said quarterly.

seekay · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 21:13 Post subject:

sparklelard did they tell you what rate you will have to pay.

sparklelard · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 21:46 Post subject:

Not yet, but the lady is going to send some information. If it is usful, I'll scan it and post it.

seekay · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 22:23 Post subject:

They have told me 47p & as veggie oil is 44p which adds up to 91p 5p or 6p cheaper than buying diesel & its still going up. The trouble I am having is accepting this duty of 47p as a lot of people I have contacted say they pay the 27p rate, even a company that do veggie oil conversions say its 27p but if C & E say its 47p what can I do, I have written a letter to my MP to see if he has any ideas.

mudskipper · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:24 Post subject:

I emailed C&E after receiving the EX103 to confirm that it is the correct one for a private individual (as opposed to a trader) to use. This is the response I received...

miketree · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 15:08 Post subject:

miketree · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 15:09 Post subject:

sorry, that should be some veggie oilS

better get some from asda and some from netto

miketree · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 15:40 Post subject:

just did a search on c&e site for EX103

found nothing

miketree · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 15:45 Post subject:

seekay · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 16:02 Post subject:

miketree when I spoke to C & E they told me biodiesel & fuel substitute were different & the booklet they sent me confirmed this , the biodiesel is 27p & a fuel substitute is 47p, to me in laymans eyes I would say biodiesel is a fuel substitute as well as veggie oil as at the end of the day neither of them is diesel fuel,but not in the eyes of the C & E.

mark dale · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:11 Post subject:

i am working on a recipe... that should make all veg oil, waste or straight into biodiesel, so eligible for lower tax rate in C&E eyes, and should be ok to run at 100%........... no diesel needed !!! (except in winter maybe...but may have an additive for that.... )

once i have it all worked out, i'll let you know ....

mark "chemistry is cookery" dale ... (i'm a chef !)

ski · * Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 16 Location: shropshire

sure keep us posted about that mark..

denjo · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 21:09 Post subject:

Ok, ive heard its possible to run on vegie oil without the need to mix with diesel.
simply add 5% white spirit to a container of vegie
oil, dont stir and let it sit for one week.
A chemical reaction occurs thinning the oil and allowing it to be used as a direct replacement for diesel.
Has anyone else heard of this Question