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wysiwyg · **** Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 339 Location: suffolk

I myself only use about 30% svo anyway. Or maybe i have worked it out wrong. I put 3 litres of rape seed in to about 15 litres of deisel. Dare not do anymore being winter.

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madhouse · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 22:24 Post subject:

vibe666 · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 22:27 Post subject:

I've got the hang of the cold starts now using 30% SVO on my 2.8.

3 turns of the ignition to the 2nd spot where the engine and glow plug lights come on. wait for both to go off and then do it again so they're all warm and toasty. then crank the engine and the split second she bites I gun it and then use the manual throttle to se tthe revs to 1500rpm until she's at normal running temp and she's all good.

byways · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:39 Post subject:

Cant help but think you are stressing the engine, starter battery, et all and possibly risking gumming the engine, and only getting 30% of the potential saving by twanking it properly.

By putting a twin tank in + FPHE, you start on 100% dino, so no issues there, then WHEN the engine is warm you switch over to 100% SVO (or 90%) and get maximum savings. Bit more work, but then its done properly.

Only downside is - do the seals on the IP last longer on just 30% - I cant think so.

vibe666 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:19 Post subject:

it's not a long term solution, I know that but it'll do for now.

my long term plan is probably going to involve the fattywagons inline injector and fuel filter heaters as opposed to twanking.

never been a fan of twanking at all, not sure why it's just not something that interests me. BUT, i guess never say never. I'll see how I go with the injector & filter heaters and take it from there.

I also have a local(ish) supplier of 'proper' bio-diesel at a good price too so I plan on giving them a try, possibly this evening now that i've almost used up my last tankful.

madhouse · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:26 Post subject:

Just as a comment - I mentioned a few weeks back (earlier post in this thread) about my "improvised FPHE", and since then it's been fine. -2 degrees this morning, and half inch of snow over the truck - started first turn with no notable sounds and I'm running a 50/50 mix. A twin tank conversion is a good choice I think especially long term, but for now things are good and I've got all summer to play about (and find somewhere for a 10 litre tank to go in the mk1 shoggie)!

vibe666 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 22:49 Post subject:

madhouse, did you get any pics of the FPHE?

i'm still just humming and hawing about what's the best way to go (aside from twank, I'm still not sure why i don't like them, i just don't) but in the meantime I found my local bio-d supplier who's selling EN14214 certified juice at 95c (73p) per litre.

he says he's learned to be cautious when starting people out on the stuff, so he said to half fill the tank the first time and that way if it's in any way not to my liking (or the cars) for ewhatever reason, I can just fill it up the rest of the way with dino diesel to water it down and be done with it, which I suppose is fair enough. I've had 2 tanks with 30% veg oil so far anyway, so I couldn't see there being any problems, but he was fairly adamant to save me coming back complaining that this was the best way.

anyway, we then go tot talking about it and he said he couldn't get anywhere near enough WVO to do make all the BD he needs and said if I could get him any more he'd pay me 25c a litre and pay me in BD and/or cash, depending on how much I can get. seems like a g0ood deal to me anyway. if I can get 400L of WVO a week to him he'll fill me up. he even sells 40L containers for a fiver each, so 10 of those in the back and off I go to the local chinkies and chip shops. Very Happy

madhouse · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 23:02 Post subject:

Shame you're not closer - I've got two local sources of WVO that is pretty good quality (only used for two days and no meat), and I haven't got any means of processing it! Picked up a 20L can the other day to play with, but I need to build a "processing plant" in my workshop before testing it on the trucks!

I'll try and post a picture or two of the home-made heater kit tomorrow.....

vibe666 · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:26 Post subject:

nice one thanks.

i reckon i'd need to fit a snorkel if I was driving over to you tho, I think that giants causway thing is a little bit deep towards the middle. Very Happy

brief update on the bio diesel test run.

car seems smoother running on BD and started a lot more easily in the cold this morning than with 30% SVO in it, so that's a good start. noticed a small patch of oil on the driveway last night tho, not sure how long it's been there, but i'll have to do some more checking. it wasn't big tho, only about the size of a digestive biscuit, but whether that's from the last week or just the last hour after i got back from putting BD in I can't say yet.

vibe666 · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:50 Post subject:

2nd cold morning on BD and it's running much better than even on dino diesel. easier starting first thing and smoother and quieter overall with a little bit more power, not to mention very steady/constant power up through the gears. smoother than a babies botty. Very Happy

I do still have a minor cold starting issue in that I can't just start it and leave it to idle if it's really cold or it cuts out. I still need to apply a few revs with the manual throttle to start with for 5 minutes to keep her running, but even on 100% dino it needed to be 1500rpm, whereas with BD 1100 seems more than ample.

i did see a spot of oil on my driveway around where the engine would be sitting, so I thought I had a leak somewhere but I parked differently on the drive for the last 2 nights and there's no new oil on the ground, so I think I must have spilt a few drops of veg oil the last time I filled up with that.

madhouse · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 0:22 Post subject:

vibe666 · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 15:32 Post subject:

oneye · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 18:39 Post subject:

a great diary your writng i shall be keeping my eye on your thread as im interested in running my 2.5 pajero kreg on chip pan fat and if me truck is lucky it might even get a cod as well no all joking aside im interested in your threads on this matter especially if you get better economy as i tow a 25ft caravan and the bad boy is quite thirsty on straight diesel so would be nice to know if anyone tows with a veggie/diesel mix i dont care if my car smeels like ian beales chip shop im after saving on running costs regards to you all rod Shocked

wkhattak · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 20:53 Post subject:

Hi,

I must confess that this is an excellent source of information for anyone (like me) planning to make use of veg oil & a thumbs up to Wilkesy for all of his efforts & time.

I am currently planning to run my 2.8 on veg oil.Just wondering whats the update on C&E like is it legal to use upto 2500 litres without registering etc?Also wanted to ask if there are any issues related to fuel pump etc.

regards,

Devon Hawker · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 22:25 Post subject: Re: An Update