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mungodog · ***** Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 939 Location: South Wales

Depends what you consider minor. The ones they've done have been lumpy on starting and sometimes difficult to start. They know a way round it, but a lot of their customers aren't willing to do it - you'd need to phone them to find out details, I can't remember, sorry!

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Wilkesy · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:55 Post subject:

MungoDog

Presumably the people you are talking about wanted to run on 100% SVO - no changes are required for a diesel/SVO mix.

GeoffL · **** Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 431 Location: SE Cornwall

When I spoke to my "local" conversion people (Plymouth Bio-Fuels), they told me that a two-tank system is needed to run on SVO. The main tank holds SVO; the other (smaller) tank is for diesel. The idea is that you run the car on diesel until the cooling system is at normal operating temperature, when the coolant is hot enough to pre-heat the SVO. Also, PBF recommended fitting a return bypass, so that the fuel return is fed into the pump suction rather than going back to the tank. This allegedly reduces the load on the pump and allows you to run on SVO with less preheating.

When the system is up to temperature, you switch over to SVO for normal running and switch back to diesel to purge the system of SVO before shutting down. If you forget to purge the system of SVO before shutting down, most diesels will be difficult to start and run lumpily until the coolant is hot enough to pre-heat the fuel. (So, it's not just Pajeros!)

@mungodog: Does this sound like the way round your Wolves contact suggested?

alan · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:39 Post subject:

Hi
What you say is exactly what I was told from a guy that was running his Surf on SVO you just need to remember to switch back to deisel five minutes from your destination so the pump is full of deisel to start again

regards

alan

mungodog · ***** Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 939 Location: South Wales

Yep! This is exactly what I was told by the people at Wolverhampton, but their system warns you with a beep if you switch off the engine without switching back to the small diesel tank so that if it's the last time you turn it off in the day you know to switch it on again, change over tanks, let it run for a couple of minutes, then turn it off with pure diesel in the tank.

They were adamant though that specifically Pajeros had a problem on SVO with the proper conversion. As I said I can't remember exact details, but it was to do with them being lumpy in their running.

sparklelard · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 15:19 Post subject:

Sounds like a money earner to me.

jaime · **** Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 256 Location: South Wales

You have taken the words from my mouth Sparklelard. Correct me if I`m wrong but I think that most members using svo dont`t appear to have problems in starting. O.K all you doubter and paranoid owners out there use a weak mix of 3 derv @ say a £1 and 1 veggy @ 45p, which brings fuel costs down to about 86p a litre, and I sure that you will notice no difference whatsover on startup, and performance will be at least equal.
Of course you must pay tax on this!!!

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GeoffL · **** Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 431 Location: SE Cornwall

vipar · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:16 Post subject:

Iv'e done 2000 miles in my 2.5 LWB Exceed (44,000 Miles) on a 50/50 mix Sainsburys Veggie @ £132 for 3 litres. Averaged 32 mpg (I dont drive hard) Everything seems to run smoother and better. I love the BBQ smell and I will continue to do so unless things get to hot with the C&E.
I saw my first YD on Sunday down at Woodlands. Think he said he was Gatz1

beektor · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:44 Post subject:

vipar · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:57 Post subject:

It's no good doing a MPG test under 1000 miles. It should be done under varying conditions. to get a true reading. I dont pull awayfrom the stationary quick, and I dont do over 70mph. I am no goodie goodie, I just wanna keep my licence.

miketree · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:01 Post subject:

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jaime · **** Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 256 Location: South Wales

Point taken Geoff, but I would think that this conversion work will cost a few bob. That together with the cost of svo plus the tax which will have to be paid when using it 100% will make it, in my opinion, a non starter with most . Far better to dilute the svo with diesel and not declare it and pay any tax on it. As Vipar says, as long as the C&E don`t come sniffing around, fiddle it, just as our beloved rulers are doing.

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The Apache · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 13:47 Post subject:

Guys, I hate the fact the we have to pay tax on veg oil, but i really don't think that it is wise to keep on about not declaring that you are using it and evading the tax. I am certain that we are all going to be in for a big shock soon, as it would seem with diesel prices still going up and with more people starting to use veg oil, C&E are going to be breathing down our necks pretty soon and believe me, their breath stinks.
Please don't think that i'm trying to sound like a miserable old b'stard, but there is every chance that these posts are being read by ppl with the C&E's interests in mind, don't give them the satisfaction Wink

Right, i'd better go and do some more work so that i can afford to put another gallon of diesel in the old girl Rolling Eyes