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Gazz LifeTime Member

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: North London
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:37 Post subject: Pajero Owners Club Manual |
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Just wondered if there were any plans for the owners club to publish their own book on maintaining a Pajero. I have the owner’s handbook the Haynes workshop manual and the Peter Russek manual but as you know these can be rather sketchy in some areas, they are great for reference but don’t always give you the hands on experience that this forum gives you. I use all three books and the forum hand in hand with each other but more often I seem to find most of my solutions coming from the forum. The knowledge from the owners input on these forums explained in plain English has enabled me many years of pleasurable motoring and trouble free maintenance not to mention the money saving aspects. I think you have enough content to put together an owner’s club guide from these forums and as I said before all the content is there, each individual forum is a chapter full of information explained in a way that up to now no other book does.
So to sum up please can you give us a book that gives us the knowledge that the other books don’t, put together from the forum posts.
With this amount of members surely a couple of pounds donation from all of us should be enough funding to get it up and running and who knows you may even make a few quid in sales for the club.
If it wasn’t for this forum I think I would struggle to maintain and afford this type of car and if I was to log on one day and find the forum not there anymore it could mean selling the Paj and buying a Smart car!!! So please publish a hard copy of all the top posts.
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PoCUK Site Admin


Age: 46 Zodiac:  Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 3724 Location: S/W New Forest Border
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 13:35 Post subject: |
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This is something I have been in discussion with a number of people about ...
Definitely in the pipeline!
Format to be decided ... possibly a set of (multi-part?) interactive CDs / DVDs.
Need to work out the logistics - how to compile the information etc - and, obviously, our copyright ... I would give it a couple of weeks from issuing the first copy to seeing it ripped off on eblag
A great starting point is, for example, the sort of workshop that James (more x 4), redders and others are starting to organise.... photos, video clips and write-ups required!
Everything, from changing glow plugs, to replacing a cylinder head!
("... a full strip-down and rebuild" as it were!)
As usual, (as is the case with all of the (merchandise) products offered within the club!), this wouldn't be done as a 'make Simon rich' excercise but as another 'fair-trade' benefit for club members.... at the end of the day, it's going to be input from club members that will make it work!
comments anyone?
Simon |
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PG Scooby LifeTime Member


Age: 50 Zodiac:  Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 886 Location: Eastbourne, 'Suntrap of the South' & final resting place for the many!!!
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 13:41 Post subject: |
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Looks like you've just found yourself a new part time job then, compiling ALL the thousands of pages of useful information on the web-site. Once you've got it together, let the members see a draft and then perhaps some advanced orders can be taken.
Problem is, this is a fee-free forum for the members and admin is an un-paid post. The only way for a project such as this is for a volunteer to take it on - your good self?
Until it's complete, I'll continue - as I have 'til now - to either bookmark useful threads or print the best ones and keep them in a file.
It's a great idea though.
EDIT: Looks like Simon beat me to the reply while I was typing, so if it goes ahead I'm sure everyone will buy on. |
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northernPaj **

Age: 48 Zodiac:  Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 64 Location: north west england
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 13:41 Post subject: |
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Simon
I think interactive CD /DVD would be a great idea for maintainance manual.
Perhaps getting a preorder list would underwrite the cost of initial production for such a procuct.
If you do make one of these I certainly would buy it.
Possibly put together with a membership to fund this ace forum.
Cheers
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more x 4 Shining Star


Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8113 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 14:01 Post subject: |
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i think if we did a cd-rom on the diy jobs,showing you exactly how to apply the plasters and what swear words to use,it would go a long way to funding the club,and instead of making simon rich,it would stop the club making him poor(seems to me people either don't know of forget this is still his hobby )
i think a collectors set,one vol per job,would be a good way to go,not everyone needs to be shown how to change an air filter,or a set of glow plugs. so you could buy the volumes you need straight away,and complete your set at your leisure
but then,couldn't we expand this to other things,like how to drive offroad?
there is so much scope for this,and i think more members input is the only way to go. who knows,if this idea actually made money,why couldn't we have a party paid for by the profits? days out for the offroaders? the possibilities are endless |
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PG Scooby LifeTime Member


Age: 50 Zodiac:  Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 886 Location: Eastbourne, 'Suntrap of the South' & final resting place for the many!!!
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 14:17 Post subject: |
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| I would stil be happy to pay a membership fee for SOME access (so as not to put off more casual users completely) for that very reason. A hobby's a great thing to have, but you need a life as well or some compensation for giving up so much of it! |
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Gazz LifeTime Member

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: North London
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 14:30 Post subject: |
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Before this topic goes any further can I just point out that when I said in my original post “who knows you may even make a few quid in sales for the club” I did mean for the club, as in any profit could be reinvested towards future projects. I do hope you don’t think that I was suggesting a get rich scam; none of us are in it for that which is proven by the fact that the club has a free membership.
I apologise to those who thought I was implying otherwise.
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PoCUK Site Admin


Age: 46 Zodiac:  Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 3724 Location: S/W New Forest Border
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 14:41 Post subject: |
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Please keep this 'on topic' - it's not a "should we / shouldn't we pay a membership fee" debate ...
Gazz ... sorry - I didn't mean to imply anything - just 'knock on the head' any thoughts people might have about me raising my rating in the 'fortune top 10 earners' list
This is a great idea that has been mulled over for a while now ... I'm glad somebody else has come out with it in public
Sooo ...
what do people want to see?
between us all, we have the facilities to produce everything from a mechanical technical reference, covering everything from topping up the battery to replacing a major component, to (as James says) "off-road" instruction - including everything from driving technique to winching (say)
Simon |
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Gazz LifeTime Member

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: North London
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 15:30 Post subject: |
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Great to hear the club is heading in this direction can anyone think of other options of Categorising?
Levels of expertise i.e. novice/beginner/intermediate
Sections of the car i.e. cooling/suspension/brakes
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joecole2384 ****

Age: 65 Zodiac:  Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 359 Location: HORSHAM WEST SUSSEX
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 17:43 Post subject: |
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I'm not a computer wizzkid but if you put volumes onto cd's would there not be a way to digitaly number each disc consecutively so that if copies were made and sold on places like eblag the number could be traced.I think the whole concept is brilliant but it will be a lot of work so pool resources.
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paulfaw LifeTime Member

Age: 46 Zodiac:  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 467 Location: Elland, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 20:09 Post subject: |
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Good Idea. I'd buy 'em. Another catagory could be "Customizing" eg:how to fit Air Horns
How to wire up after market fog lights
How to fit them pesky 6" x 9" speakers in the back. etc etc
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dave62 *

Age: 48 Zodiac:  Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 19 Location: hull east yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 23:40 Post subject: |
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| Me too, I think the forum is great and the people too! so to pool the knowledge to benefit everyone will not only help, but will give us all another common goal, which can only strengthen what we allready have.If a profit is made we can face that when, and if we come to it.As you all know I am new here, but I would like to stay and do my bit whatever that might be. |
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wayne99 ******

Age: 42 Zodiac:  Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 1568 Location: Tewkesbury Glos ( just east of the wet bit )
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 0:09 Post subject: |
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I think what is needed is an idiots guide with pics, something like Ivor green is doing , that way nobody should mess things up, put them all onto cd and charge a modest fee job done  |
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gazzer ****


Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 319 Location: Montes de Malaga
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 18:48 Post subject: |
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This supports what I was commenting on recently Simon, the current info is severely lacking for satisfactory Mitsi maintenance and repair.
I think tho that CD's will be lacking in MegaBytes and a move into DVD territory probably necessary if "interactive" is the way to go. |
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Chastiser Guest
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 20:06 Post subject: |
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it may also be an idea to include simple 'how to's' as either word docs or pdf's so that you can print off the page you need and have it with you when working on the vehicle. nowt worse than haveing to keep rushing indoors to check sommat once covered in oil and grease.
i found this quite effective when doing simple jobs like setting the tps and resetting the ecu when i had an mx6, especially as you need a diagnostic plug pin layout in front of you as opposed to trying to remember which pins to ground etc.
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