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brettwood *
Age: 51 Zodiac: Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 19 Location: halifax
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 18:13 Post subject: no power loads of smoke pinking sound |
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hi all i have drove home tonight no prob then all of a sudden no power struggle to rev up loads of smoke pouring out and a pinking type sound pulled over tried to rev no avail waited a couple of minutes pulled away fine i removed my blanking plate a couple of weeks ago and cleaned the egr valve a couple of nights ago as it was smoking badly i have lost the plate in my garage of c*** i have orderd a new one waiting for it to arrive is this an egr fault or is it more serious by the way i have replaced the air filter |
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Stoxy LifeTime Member
Age: 48 Zodiac: Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 772 Location: Tynemouth, North East England
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 21:53 Post subject: |
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You dont state what engine you have?
If its a 2.5 it may have slipped a tooth on the timing belt.
On any engine it may be a broken rocker. U will have to take the cover off to have a look tough.
Reply with engine and others will add more help I'm sure.
Good luck with it. |
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offroaddriver Moderator
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 1496 Location: The big smoke
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 22:15 Post subject: |
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by the symptoms you say, it sounds exactly like yer timing has slipped a tooth.
i had this too and put new belts on.
tom |
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surfimick **
Age: 64 Zodiac: Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Peacehaven East sussex
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 22:27 Post subject: smoke |
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I had this problem on my old 2.5 pajero when i put the wrong vaccum pipes on the egr valve just a thought did you change any pipes round? |
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markppearson *******
Age: 48 Zodiac: Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 3164 Location: Margate, Kent, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 19:41 Post subject: |
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I have had this too, delay in power when accelerating, puffs of black smoke and a 'prominent' knocking/pinking noise, then pulls away fine.
It originally started when I unplugged the battery and wiped the Memory.
Anyway, got the garage to look at her whilst doing a service.
So changed all the filters, all the belts (ouch!), new tension arm bearing, new water pump.
Anyway, picked her up today after 2days in Garage. The pinking/noise has cured a lot, but is still noticable.
Mechanic, who I trust more than the average, has informed me that the engine is getting to much fuel, which causes the pinking and black puffs.
Any aftethoughts on this from you guys????
I was wondering, if I was to unplug the battery again and wipe the memory, will this might clear the remainder of the picking noise or will something else be required? ie timing readjusted (or is this std with the timing belt change?), fuel pump, or even the egr valve? |
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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 19:54 Post subject: |
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as with everything,if the smoke is black,it's overfueling. there are a whole host of reasons this happens,simple stuff like a blocked airfilter to more involved things like timing being out. the only way to cure it properly is to take it to a garage with a rolling road and have it set up on a dyno. if you don't do that,it will never be perfect,maybe just near enough |
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DAZ **
Joined: 06 Dec 2002 Posts: 54 Location: EAST YORKSHIRE
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 19:57 Post subject: |
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When I bought my challenger 2.8, it would occasionally do the exact symptoms you describe - pinking + smoking. Have you cleaned/ blocked the egr valve? As this valve links the inlet manifold via the valve to the exhaust manifold, we found on this car that it was loosing the boost pressure from the turbo. after checking we found that once the turbo was 'boosting' the egr valve was leaking most of the boost straight down the exhaust, thus, the pump was providing the fuel required, but the extra air (turbo boost) needed was'nt being provided, hence the overfuelling (pinking) and smoke. We blocked off the valve with a blanking plate and cured the problem. If you've already blocked it off just check the plate has'nt burnt through, worth a look??? |
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markppearson *******
Age: 48 Zodiac: Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 3164 Location: Margate, Kent, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 20:05 Post subject: |
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I have replaced ALL the filters, replaced ALL the belts, including timing and balance shaft. Not doing it as much now, but still doing it.
James is there any chance you could tell me or send me pics so as I can look to see if my egr is blanked or not as I have no idea what to look for or where and wouldnt know wether its been plated off or not.
Cheers Guys. |
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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 20:08 Post subject: |
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you lazy git mark,it took me 20 secs to find this
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markppearson *******
Age: 48 Zodiac: Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 3164 Location: Margate, Kent, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 20:11 Post subject: |
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He he he. Sorry mate, had a bad day at work!!!
I take it that is a pic of a 2.8 is it? Is it the same for a 2.5 Bud? |
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more x 4 Shining Star
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 8104 Location: stevenage,herts
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 20:12 Post subject: |
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it's closer than the 3.5 you wanted me to take pics of
if you ever need anything,it will be in the tech faq |
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