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PoCUK Site Admin
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 3749 Location: S/W New Forest Border
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 22:22 Post subject: Online 4x4 petitions - primarily motoring ONLY please! |
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We've been seeing more and more online petitions posted on the forums - some that have had a lot of public press, including a recent one to "scrap the vehicle tracking and road-pricing policy" that just received it's one millionth online 'signature'.
Now, I may be being a bit cynical, but I can't help feeling that some of these may simply be being used to 'harvest' email addresses
Still ... if people find what appears to be a pertinent online petition, related to 4x4 issues and/or general motoring issues (eg fuel duty, tax, etc) then PLEASE don't kick off a new thread for each new petition - please add the details as a reply to THIS thread.
Thanks,
Simon. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 22:22 Post subject: Google Ads keep the POCUK free to join! |
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sparklelard ****
Age: 57 Zodiac: Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 258 Location: Carharrack - Cornwall
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 16:31 Post subject: |
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If you haven't seen Uncle Tony's reply, here it is.
It landed in my Hotmails Junk Mail Folder - how does Hotmail know!
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Thank you for taking the time to register your views about road pricing on the Downing Street website.
This petition was posted shortly before we published the Eddington Study, an independent review of Britain's transport network. This study set out long-term challenges and options for our transport network.
It made clear that congestion is a major problem to which there is no easy answer. One aspect of the study was highlighting how road pricing could provide a solution to these problems and that advances in technology put these plans within our reach. Of course it would be ten years or more before any national scheme was technologically, never mind politically, feasible.
That is the backdrop to this issue. As my response makes clear, this is not about imposing "stealth taxes" or introducing "Big Brother" surveillance. This is a complex subject, which cannot be resolved without a thorough investigation of all the options, combined with a full and frank debate about the choices we face at a local and national level. That's why I hope this detailed response will address your concerns and set out how we intend to take this issue forward. I see this email as the beginning, not the end of the debate, and the links below provide an opportunity for you to take it further.
But let me be clear straight away: we have not made any decision about national road pricing. Indeed we are simply not yet in a position to do so. We are, for now, working with some local authorities that are interested in establishing local schemes to help address local congestion problems. Pricing is not being forced on any area, but any schemes would teach us more about how road pricing would work and inform decisions on a national scheme. And funds raised from these local schemes will be used to improve transport in those areas.
One thing I suspect we can all agree is that congestion is bad. It's bad for business because it disrupts the delivery of goods and services. It affects people's quality of life. And it is bad for the environment. That is why tackling congestion is a key priority for any Government.
Congestion is predicted to increase by 25% by 2015. This is being driven by economic prosperity. There are 6 million more vehicles on the road now than in 1997, and predictions are that this trend will continue.
Part of the solution is to improve public transport, and to make the most of the existing road network. We have more than doubled investment since 1997, spending £2.5 billion this year on buses and over £4 billion on trains - helping to explain why more people are using them than for decades. And we're committed to sustaining this investment, with over £140 billion of investment planned between now and 2015. We're also putting a great deal of effort into improving traffic flows - for example, over 1000 Highways Agency Traffic Officers now help to keep motorway traffic moving.
But all the evidence shows that improving public transport and tackling traffic bottlenecks will not by themselves prevent congestion getting worse. So we have a difficult choice to make about how we tackle the expected increase in congestion. This is a challenge that all political leaders have to face up to, and not just in the UK. For example, road pricing schemes are already in operation in Italy, Norway and Singapore, and others, such as the Netherlands, are developing schemes. Towns and cities across the world are looking at road pricing as a means of addressing congestion.
One option would be to allow congestion to grow unchecked. Given the forecast growth in traffic, doing nothing would mean that journeys within and between cities would take longer, and be less reliable. I think that would be bad for businesses, individuals and the environment. And the costs on us all will be real - congestion could cost an extra £22 billion in wasted time in England by 2025, of which £10-12 billion would be the direct cost on businesses.
A second option would be to try to build our way out of congestion. We could, of course, add new lanes to our motorways, widen roads in our congested city centres, and build new routes across the countryside. Certainly in some places new capacity will be part of the story. That is why we are widening the M25, M1 and M62. But I think people agree that we cannot simply build more and more roads, particularly when the evidence suggests that traffic quickly grows to fill any new capacity.
Tackling congestion in this way would also be extremely costly, requiring substantial sums to be diverted from other services such as education and health, or increases in taxes. If I tell you that one mile of new motorway costs as much as £30m, you'll have an idea of the sums this approach would entail.
That is why I believe that at least we need to explore the contribution road pricing can make to tackling congestion. It would not be in anyone's interests, especially those of motorists, to slam the door shut on road pricing without exploring it further.
It has been calculated that a national scheme - as part of a wider package of measures - could cut congestion significantly through small changes in our overall travel patterns. But any technology used would have to give definite guarantees about privacy being protected - as it should be. Existing technologies, such as mobile phones and pay-as-you-drive insurance schemes, may well be able to play a role here, by ensuring that the Government doesn't hold information about where vehicles have been. But there may also be opportunities presented by developments in new technology. Just as new medical technology is changing the NHS, so there will be changes in the transport sector. Our aim is to relieve traffic jams, not create a "Big Brother" society.
I know many people's biggest worry about road pricing is that it will be a "stealth tax" on motorists. It won't. Road pricing is about tackling congestion.
Clearly if we decided to move towards a system of national road pricing, there could be a case for moving away from the current system of motoring taxation. This could mean that those who use their car less, or can travel at less congested times, in less congested areas, for example in rural areas, would benefit from lower motoring costs overall. Those who travel longer distances at peak times and in more congested areas would pay more. But those are decisions for the future. At this stage, when no firm decision has been taken as to whether we will move towards a national scheme, stories about possible costs are simply not credible, since they depend on so many variables yet to be investigated, never mind decided.
Before we take any decisions about a national pricing scheme, we know that we have to have a system that works. A system that respects our privacy as individuals. A system that is fair. I fully accept that we don't have all the answers yet. That is why we are not rushing headlong into a national road pricing scheme. Before we take any decisions there would be further consultations. The public will, of course, have their say, as will Parliament.
We want to continue this debate, so that we can build a consensus around the best way to reduce congestion, protect the environment and support our businesses. If you want to find out more, please visit the attached links to more detailed information, and which also give opportunities to engage in further debate.
Yours sincerely,
Tony Blair |
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PoCUK Site Admin
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 3749 Location: S/W New Forest Border
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 21:35 Post subject: Services under threat - please sign! |
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Daisy wrote: |
My 84 year old Mum got sent a letter by Coloplast, who manufacture supplies for people with 'Ostomies' and also people who are incontinent amongst others... ( she has had a colostomy since 2005 - not something she's delighted to be saddled with at this stage in her life ).
The Dept.of Health is proposing to 'improve ' the way it pays companies such as Coloplast for the appliances they provide and currently deliver extremely efficiently to the doorstep, presumably meaning that this service, currently provided free, is to be given the usual government treatment, which will no doubt put it under threat in it's present form.
This will affect a large number of people of all ages already coping with difficulties.
Please sign here: the more the merrier!
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/homedelivery |
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hrox ***
Age: 41 Zodiac: Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 240 Location: 15 Priory Lane, Gosport, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 13:59 Post subject: 4x4 Road Tax |
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Well for those of you not already seen (poss on other boards) theres a petition at number 10
4x4 bashing Petition @ No 10 found on another site but just in case anyone wants to sign it. |
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Bread Lady Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 19:41 Post subject: Road Fund Duty for Dual-fuel vehicles |
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Please look at this petition - it is most definitely not a means of procurring email addresses!!
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/DualFuelRoadTax
I own a wonderful Paj V6 - love of my life - runs on LPG. If my vehicle wa under 5yrs of age I would be paying the lowest rate of road tax - instead I am paying the highest which is now to drastically increase to 'reduce pollution'!
I live in very rural and coastal North Devon where I run a small B&B and work as a specialist bread baker. We have virtually no public transport, our nearest hospital is more than 30 miles away, the local economy is not good and most folk run elderly vehicles (loads of Paj's) using chip oil, LPG etc. Our 'gas-guzzling' 4x4's aren't just a fashion accessory - they're a necessity. Now Mr Brown is clobbering us even more!! Road tax should be based on actual emissions of each vehicle and the emissions certificate should be part of the MOT documentation that goes with insurance etc to re-tax each year.
Please help by reading my petition and signing it if you feel able to support.
I fully realise this does not cover all the issues - but I had to start somwhere!!
Thank you! |
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ukrabbiter ********
Age: 55 Zodiac: Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 5728 Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 0:00 Post subject: Your Paj is at risk of being banned from the road |
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Just found this petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Classic-Cars/
Several EU proposals across the years are dangerous to the classic car movement. One that has been under consideration is to ban the use of cars older than 10 years. Similarly, Edinburgh City Council is considering the banning of cars over 15 years old from the town centre. These, and similar, proposals directly threaten the classic car movement, and encourage the manufacture of new cars, with the attendent environmental issues of sourcing raw materials, manufacturing, distriuting and scrapping the spiralling supply of new vehicles. |
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tazbabe Events rep (Scotland)
Age: 93 Zodiac: Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 4533 Location: ayrshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 0:01 Post subject: |
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oct. they've tried that one before. |
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Zahid *
Age: 62 Zodiac: Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Location: london
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 19:08 Post subject: Make all parking fines proportional to the original parking |
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Let's get as many people as possible to sign this
Your petition has been approved by the Number 10 web team, and
is now available on the Number 10 website at the following
address:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Parkingpro/
Your petition reads:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make all
parking fines proportional to the original parking cost
If a parking ticket costs 40p per hour then the fine for any
over stay should not exceed the cost. It should be proportional
to the original cost. It is criminal that local authority's are
allowed to issue fines of £60.00 for a 5min overstay on a 40p
parking bay. Most local authority's are now deliberately using
these fines as a way of raising revenue and this should be
stopped.
Thanks for submitting your petition.
-- the ePetitions team |
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Baddoo LifeTime Member
Age: 48 Zodiac: Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: Heanor, Derbyshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 20:25 Post subject: |
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Heres a petition that would really benefit those of us that dont drive a shiny
Pinched the link from a different forum, but I bet they wont mind.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Suspend-NERC/ |
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Tonka Events rep (North East)
Age: 56 Zodiac: Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1972 Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 23:21 Post subject: Fuel Duty Petition |
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Let them know how we feel. Click the pic (below) and sign the petition
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big beast ****
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 316 Location: middlesbrough
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 20:45 Post subject: Fuel Duty |
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i nicked this link from ITOC but it`s worth signing, it might be a waste of time but if we don`t try we will never get anywhere
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/reducefuelduty/ |
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wiggletiger LifeTime Member
Age: 58 Zodiac: Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6217 Location: Barnsley south yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 20:49 Post subject: |
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how many more of these pointless petitions are there going to be
deep down we all know they don't get read |
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big beast ****
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 316 Location: middlesbrough
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 21:05 Post subject: |
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it might seem pointless and i agree they do not get read, but the more that are signed and submitted the more there is on record that we are getting fed up and something needs to be done. if you stood for PM and only promised 3 things to the UK public at the moment you would be elected tomorrow.
1)half the duty on fuel
2)get rid of the smoking ban
3)sort out the problem of illigal imigrants.
we as a club can help with the first one at least |
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tall paul h *
Age: 52 Zodiac: Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 10 Location: doncaster
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:26 Post subject: PETROL PRICES |
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Petrol prices have gone through the roof - it is time to petition the government in recognition of the fact that their VAT on fuel is unacceptable for the British motorist. No where else in Europe suffers the same punishment on motorists. VAT on fuel is nothing to do with environmental concerns - it is another way of the government unjustly taxing the hard working British public.
sorry no link as yet,not enough posts so please add the thing in front
cheers and sign away as this affects us all
petitions.pm.gov.uk/CUT-PETROL-COST/ |
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Kermit power **
Age: 53 Zodiac: Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 110 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:42 Post subject: Unfair retroactive car tax hikes in the budget - petition! |
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For any that didn't notice, the slimy little sods that we know as our government slipped in a nasty little retroactive bombshell into the budget.
If, like me, you've got a car registered between March 2001 and March 2006, then you're currently paying £210 VED for a car putting out over 225g of CO2. Despite the fact that keeping a car running whilst it is perfectly serviceable makes far more sense than scrapping it and getting a new one, the black-browed skunk has decided that as from 2009, we should be paying £440 for the privilege!!! Even a car putting out a fairly modest 201g/km is going to be stung with £300!!! Amongst others, this affects all Paj/Shoggies in that timeframe.
If you disapprove, sign the petition here --> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED/#detail
If you want more detail on the actual tax bands, they're here --> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/Budget2008/DG_073093
Given that the petition only currently has 1,500 or so signatories, I'm assuming it's not yet on too many motoring forums, so please get on there and sign up! They may well ignore it, but it can't do any harm, and they just might listen! |
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