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GAZZ1ZZ
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On our local news round up last night, Central news there was an article about the fitting of bullbars to vehicles, they showed a Paj of all vehicles with its bar removed, and saying that anyone fitting a bar to a vehicle could be fined upto £20,000 or imprisoned.
I tried searching for it and cant find it, did anyone else see it ? |
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nick the nurse
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:14 Post subject: |
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I didn't mate but Kath did its about this
try
www.tnn.co.uk/UKNews
Its under Bull Bar Outlaws
No Link on the Central News site   |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:00 Post subject: |
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Wonder if this applies to companies manufacturing/fitting bullbars to new cars?
How will the authorities be able to prove that your motor hasnt had a bullbar on it for a long time?
Will I get fined or sent to prison for refitting my bullbar when it comes back from Gazs after repair?
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:02 Post subject: |
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| nick the nurse wrote: |
I didn't mate but Kath did its about this
try
www.tnn.co.uk/UKNews
Its under Bull Bar Outlaws
No Link on the Central News site |
From reading that link it seems to apply to manufacturers and suppliers, not if one is already fitted.
Still a ruddy nuisance though How can you fit a winch to a lump of foam |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:50 Post subject: |
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Statistics produced by the UK’s Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) reveal why the new EC legislation and the Endura FPS can make a major breakthrough in pedestrian safety. More than 900 UK and 12,000 European pedestrians and cyclists are killed every year and more than 9,000 and 290,000 respectively are seriously injured.
Which is a bit meaningless, unless we also have the statistics as to how many of these injuries are due to cars with bullbars, or even 4x4s..
I know for a fact that the 'people killed on Lincolnshire's roads' have at one time included a man who died of a heart attack in his parked car.  This information was divulged to me by a serving Police Class 1 driver... |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:15 Post subject: |
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Followed through some of the manufacturers info where it says
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| The risk of leg injury to a pedestrian when hit by a vehicle not fitted with a frontal protection system is extremely high. |
So i presume this to mean the majority of cars on the road today that are not fitted with fps !
I also fail to understand how getting hit by anything, at any sort of speed, can suddenly be "safer" unless its got masses of padding on the front. Thats of course ignoring the impact the pedestrian/cyclist or whatever, will then have with the ground.
Personally, I think it all neatly goes hand in hand with the anti 4x4 stuff thats getting bandied about at the moment. |
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Stop press!!
Spontex have a new product  :
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Stop press!!
Spontex have a new product :
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 15:46 Post subject: |
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Would the the law apply to this one, I wonder  Would it work without the Bullbars, I wonder .
bob |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 17:56 Post subject: Re: Bullbar Issue on Central News |
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| GAZZ1ZZ wrote: |
On our local news round up last night, Central news there was an article about the fitting of bullbars to vehicles, they showed a Paj of all vehicles with its bar removed, and saying that anyone fitting a bar to a vehicle could be fined upto £20,000 or imprisoned.
I tried searching for it and cant find it, did anyone else see it ? |
,......just as well they abolished hanging |
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| Daisy wrote: |
Stop press!!
Spontex have a new product :
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radiator won't be quite so efficient, though |
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:51 Post subject: |
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| redneck wrote: |
| How can you fit a winch to a lump of foam |
This is the question I'm wondering about. I haven't got a winch but I'm thinking about it. AFAICT, most bullbars aren't suitable for fitting winches and you need a proper winch bumper. Does the ban include winch bumpers, or will it still be legal to sell them?
BTW, I retained my bullbars because I once had a vehicle written off when a dartmoor pony jumped into the road in front of me one night. If I'd had a front seat passenger, she'd have been killed because the roof was flattened down to dashboard level. My bars are the manufacturer's option - fitted to the car during manufacture or at the original dealership AFAICT. The chances of me having a horse or deer run out of road-side bushes in front of my car and a darned sight more likely than me running over pedestrians - so why has this anti-rural law been passed that puts me and my family at greater risk? |
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| Not April Fools day is it? If they want to fit them to post vans then they want to come up with one which goes right round it. Anyway, I didn't think it was illegal to fit them to cars over a certain age. Hope so cos I want one. |
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 13:24 Post subject: |
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| Not April Fools day is it? If they want to fit them to post vans then they want to come up with one which goes right round it. Anyway, I didn't think it was illegal to fit them to cars over a certain age. Hope so because I want one. |
AFAICT- from a certain date it will be unlawful to sell bull bars or fit them to cars first used after that date.
- At some other date further in the future it will be unlawful to sell a vehicle with bull bars fitted.
- Despite the previous point, it will remain legal to give them away with the vehicle on which they were fitted provided that the sale doesn't depend on the supply of the bull bars.
- It will remain legal for the owner of a vehicle to fit bull bars to cars first used prior to the cut-off date in point 1.
- At some even later date presenting a car with bull bars fitted will mean an automatic MOT failure.
- Despite the previous point, it will continue to be legal for bull bars to be fitted to cars first used prior to the cut-off date, so an owner could legally remove them for the MOT and fit them back onto the car after the test. (don't you just love joined-up thinking )
"Frontal protection systems" (FPS), which are basically type-approved soft bull bars and A bars, will remain OK and should give better protection in the event of impact with an errant horse, deer, etc. although the FPS would need to be replaced while the bull bars stand a chance of remaining intact.
Now, since all the above is hearsay, I could be wrong. |
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