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mudcom · ***** Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 890 Location: mansfield

DO NOT PUT WHITE SPIRIT IN WITH VEG OIL as you will have to pay tax on it
making it pointless. mix with diesel

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john bird · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 22:48 Post subject:

i have recently started to mix unleaded with the veg oil in the same 5 percent ratio as the white spirit in order not to fall foul of the duty regulations.if you leave it for the same length of time to mix it does the same job.i agree that when the weather is warm you dont really need to use any thinning agent,but the more ratio of cooking oil diesel you use past 50/50 the more you need to thin the cooking oil to aid starting and cold running.jb. Cool

the-toby · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 23:59 Post subject:

Y,,,,,Y PAY,,YOU WILL BE producing fuel,,,y is chip fat Durant to white spirit,,,if you are producing,,,well,,,you are producing

i see it this way,,,,,,,,,,,, white spirit,,you will pay tax on
chip fat,,,no vat
derv,,,riped off

so y would i (me) get nicked for putting white spirit in my tank??

I produce less than the amount that the GOVERMENT says i can

i am in the band of producer

hay,,let me know if im wrong,,, Wink

Baddoo · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 0:23 Post subject:

Sorry here it is direct from Customs website

The producer/user should also furnish evidence that the biofuel has been made using ingredients that will result in a fuel that meets the biodiesel specification. In simple terms this excludes the use of ingredients such as white spirit (which is a hydrocarbon) in the production process.

Any product that does not meet the Biodiesel specification will be considered a fuel substitute and will attract the appropriate duty rate.

White spirit is not approved for use as a road fuel. If white spirit is added to Straight Vegetable Oil (SVO) or used in biodiesel production the whole batch would be rendered liable to duty at the ultra low sulphur diesel rate.

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageAboutUs_ShowContent&id=HMCE_PROD1_024145&propertyType=document

slewis1972 · *** Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 188 Location: Surrey

Thanks for that. Ok - well, I will stop mixing it now. I believe then the next best mixing solution is unleaded fuel - same ratio, is that correct?

Scott

the-toby · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:04 Post subject:

luckily i dont mix w/s in mine,,,,but come winter,,,i wold have done Embarassed

im so glad you cleared that up for me,,,and other users Wink

thanks mudcom, baddoo

mudcom · ***** Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 890 Location: mansfield

isnt petrol same price or nearabouts as diesel Rolling Eyes

slewis1972 · *** Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 188 Location: Surrey

Yep, but you use it a a thinning ingrediant eg 10lites veg oil, half a litre unleaded. Leave for 5 days and the solution should be alot thinner than straight veg oil.

I am hoping the new thinner solution will allow me to not have to get the seals fixed on my pump. Currently not leaking but did if I put in full veg oil at 50/50 ratio.

Scott

mudcom · ***** Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 890 Location: mansfield

why dont you just bang it all in tank & let it sit in tank & mix while driving the best mixing tank

slewis1972 · *** Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 188 Location: Surrey

From what I have read, the idea is not to mix it. You just let it stand to do its magic.

Scott

mudcom · ***** Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 890 Location: mansfield

dont belive everything you read do it yourself
just seems a lot of messing about to me 5 days for a batch were do you store all this fuel
you dont really need to thin oil in this weather anyway

rick the biker · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 23:21 Post subject:

as i understand it from previous posts on this..white spirit has no marker so cannot be traced.
so no worries then.

we just had a lot of brushes to clean out.honest. Cool