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Brg_jay · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 16:32 Post subject: Swapping my mk3 for a mk2

Hey guys,

I'm considering swapping my 2000 MK3 3.2 LWB for a MK2 LWB Paj.. primarily for availability of off-road mods etc, theres either nothing available, or stuff costs a million pounds for the mk3! I cant even find a ladder for the rear door.

Would this be a daft thing for me to even think about?
The car is kind of a second vehicle in the household, but due to the size, we use it to go camping in and what not. I drive it daily to and from work.

My mind is two-ing and fro-ing with the thought...

Any advice?

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peteinchad · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 16:41 Post subject:

I would never have a MkIII - too complex, and the fuel pump worries me. I also prefer the shape of the MkII.

I will admit that the MkIII is probably more economical and comfortable though. It is also likely to be faster than the MkII (but most things are!)

h4rri · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 17:04 Post subject:

Personally it seems the Mk2 suits your needs better than the Mk3 so why not go for it Smile

White Elephant · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 17:12 Post subject:

...it's a mk1 that you need Laughing

Mk2s are awful (so I've heard Rolling Eyes

) and I take it the mk3 just has added complications Confused

Who needs more than 24mpg and 55mph Laughing

Edit:

On a more serious note (and a newbie one, so advance apologies if I'm wrong) but isn't a mk1 a cost effective contender? I mean they are even cheaper than mk2s and better off road (so I've heard Laughing

). Off road mods are plentiful and cheaper too?

Why not keep they mk3 and get a mk1 to off-road and go camping in?

AL

Brg_jay · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 17:21 Post subject:

One of the only things putting me off is that my mk3 is completely rust free underneath, like off the production line clean - it's only been in the country for a couple of years. I dont want to be swapping myself into a whole world of hurt with chassis rust etc.

I gather that's the problem with mk2's - if I'm wrong, then that's my fears alleviated Very Happy

I wish I could afford another car as well as mine, but I can't really justify that to the Mrs!

peteinchad · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 19:13 Post subject:

It depends on how a MkII has been treated by previous owners.

There are some that are rusting into dust and others like mine with minimal rust.

I think that your MkIII is probably unusual - lots of pics on here showing rusty wheel arches etc,

Mk1's don't have SuperSelect - so that rules them out for me ( same with Shogun Sports)

Brg_jay · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 19:19 Post subject:

May stick it on the Facebook group, see what happens!

scoots · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 19:44 Post subject: mk3

u can have my mk2

titan · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 20:54 Post subject:

well i thought i had made a mistake when i got the mk4 for the same reasons but..

the more i read, play and research the less i feel so. having been in the game of getting muddy for years and i have had everything from a £1k disco to a £20k off road buggy the new 4x4's are very capable. yes you cant get a lift kit and cant do a body lift but then do you need to?? i went out with my mates in there buggies and did everything they did and without needed to even think about locking at all. a good set of tyres and a bit of reading into the TC/ASC and the center diff and its will go anywhere you need it too in the uk.

retro fitting things like ladders and stuff is the fun bit.

personally i like the new models now and the Independent suspension and all the new toys make it fun.

White Elephant · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 21:31 Post subject:

tom fenton · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 21:43 Post subject:

No super select equals no centre diff equals no use of 4x4 on the road. I discount anything like that also. In winter I run my shogun in 4H, the road holding improvement is very evident from the drivers seat.

White Elephant · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 22:24 Post subject:

I'm so glad i edited my previous post to remove the bit about betting it's some swanky centre diff such and such hahah

Oh and also the bit about having not found any condition in the mk1 in 4w mode that a skilled driver couldn't manage in 2w mode Embarassed

That could've been a major faux pas Laughing

Edit: it'll be interesting to see how many times I end up facing the wrong way on icy roads this winter in a rwd truck Shocked

But then again if it's anything less than 3" of snow I will probably be using (and from long experience, being entirely safe in) the sensible fwd vw sharan. It will always start, run, stop and get through almost every 'road' condition. When the routes become so obscured they are no longer 'roads' I have my mk1 Cool

Horses for courses, and as far as I know, horses do not have super select or digital electrickery.... Do they Shocked

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jonny ramrod · Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 23:07 Post subject:

they have their own version of 4wd though Very Happy

NJV6 · Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:17 Post subject:

Off Road- Gen 2 without a doubt. Underbody is protected and strong, parts are easy to replace, diff locks easy to find, don't worry about bashing it. The last of the gen 1's are basically a gen 2 (coil sprung) but without the interior comfort of the gen 2.

On road, - gen 3-4 without a doubt, more vulnerable underneath, low fuel tank, plastic bash plates, rear bumper waiting to be pulled off, cannot fit as big a wheels, body lifts near on impossible, but corners and handling is unreal, trade off for this handling and steering is more road noise on tarmac especially with mud tyres, the gen 2 is much quieter.

Super Select, known as one of the best transfer cases on the planet for good reason.

Rob546454 · Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:45 Post subject:

I do like the mk3's but I am rebuilding a mk2 for good reasons. Simple, easy enough to work on. Parts are pretty cheap, better off-road and tougher, More fun to drive. Easier to bash, bump, scrape and drill holes into Very Happy

Wouldn't fancy going underwater in anything with more than basic electrics.