Help the Club - Click to Buy!

The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club®
The Mitsubishi Pajero, Shogun, Montero, Challenger, Raider and EVO 4x4 Owner's Club
 
The POCUK - it's not just a Club, it's a way of life!

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   Watched TopicsWatched Topics   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your personal messagesLog in to check your personal messages   Log inLog in 
Click here to link to the Pajero Owners Club UK FaceBook Group!POCUK FaceBook Group  POCUK home pagePOCUK Home  POCUK ForumsPOCUK Forums  CalendarCalendar

2.8 cuts out just after starting, then runs fine all day

Goto page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 12, 13, 14  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club® Forum Index -> Starting / running issues
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Spanishstokie
Newbie
Newbie


Age: 60
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5
Location: Costa del Sol

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 16:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks emax!  I've had the rear inspection plate off to look at the top of the tank, there was the fuel gauge sender cables and 2 pipes (fuel) coming out of a plate around 4" in diameter, behind that (unaccessible) was  a further plate with cables , biut I couldn't really see what that was.

Where would I find the injection pump on  the motor (4m40) as I would be looking at it into the engine compartment, left or right?

Cheers.........Sangria, no probs if you are this way
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
Google
Sponsor







PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 16:45    Post subject: Google Ads keep the POCUK free to join!


Back to top
BIG RED
*******
*******


Age: 66
Zodiac: Pisces
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 2699
Location: NORTHWICH CHESHIRE

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 17:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

look at the engine from the front down the middle at the top there is the rocker cover(top of engine) at the right hand side theres a big aluminium lump with wires and four pipes coming off it to the injectors thats the fuel injection pump. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
Spanishstokie
Newbie
Newbie


Age: 60
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5
Location: Costa del Sol

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 21:11    Post subject: Pump Reply with quote

Thanks big red.  I do have a CD Rom with the manuals on and it points to the lower part of the engine (I may be wrong).  I will check this out tomorrow so that I can point it out to my chap.  I have rang a couple of people today, I am looking in the region of 500.00 euros.....can't believe that when one garage in the UK is quoting around £150.00, may drive back to the UK.

Does anyone know of any reputable mechanics on the Costa del Sol area (not saying the chaps that I spoke to aren't, indeed they are).

Cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
DanDini
*
*




Joined: 23 Jun 2003
Posts: 49
Location: Bristol

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanDini wrote:
ADS Auto Repairs
200 South Liberty La, Bristol, BS3 2TY

...will do the 'front seal' only on the pump for £200 + VAT. They say it is all that is needed and they do hundreds up and down the country. Does that sound ok?

Thanks,

Dan


Had mine done as per above and it's been great. Cleared up the 'cutting out after a mile or two' problem completely.

Dan
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message Visit poster's website
Spanishstokie
Newbie
Newbie


Age: 60
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5
Location: Costa del Sol

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 14:14    Post subject: Seals Reply with quote

Hi Folks,
          I have at last managed to find a mecahnic who accepts what we have said about the pump seals being defective (as you may be aware I live in a little village inland of the Costa Del Sol).  A few mechanics that I contacted wanted to send the pump away to have it done and then have it recalibrated, is this required?  Reading these posts it isn't!!!!

I have 'pulled off' a copy of the fuel pump and its component parts from a  CD Rom that I have, so that I can explain to this mechanic.......What and where precisley are these seals.................., any help will make it a lot easier for me to get the message across to the chap.

Cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
emax
LifeTime Member
LifeTime Member


Age: 67
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 02 Aug 2007
Posts: 2277
Location: Purleigh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 15:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello S.ST Very Happy


try this

http://www.pocuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22531


and this

http://www.pocuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=87652

might help

see you when you stop shouting at el mechanico Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
esc_cos
****
****




Joined: 15 Mar 2009
Posts: 313
Location: norway

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 14:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

must say this is a verry good forum.
hoping for som help from you proffs..

i also have the same problem with my car. 2.8 pajero. year 1995.

when the car has been parked,for meny hours,over the night i have a problem.

it start up as son i crank it. thats good.
but when i start driving i wount get far at all before i cut,stops. and then it is realy hard to start up agein. and when it duse,it smokes like qrazy from the exhaust
it can cutt,stop 2 to 3 times before the car drives as it should. it seems that it gets better to higher the temp goes in this stage.
but if i lett it stand parked with the engine running about 30 minutes before a cold startup i have no problems what so ever.

and its the same when the engine is  hot,no problem. can start and stop and drive away as i like.
shanged air and fuelfilter. looked over the fuellines.looks good.
car has low milage.

what do you think? the pump seals?

and it is the pump seals,what whill that realy do to my engine?falts i get?

sorry for my bad english

thanks folks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
Spanishstokie
Newbie
Newbie


Age: 60
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5
Location: Costa del Sol

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 14:43    Post subject: Fuel pump Reply with quote

emax..........top person, thanks for that, this will enable me to explain to el mechanico what needs to do, the pictures help 100%.

What I have found is that if I warm the engine up before pulling away it helps no end.  What I do is get the wife to sit in the drivers seat with her foot slighty on the accelerator and I pump the primer on top of the fuel filter if it feels like it is going to stall...............saves the embarrasemnt of the car stopping in some inconvenient spot!!!!!  Takes about 10 minutes!

Regards

SS
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
paulbarton
LifeTime Member
LifeTime Member


Age: 64
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 22 Apr 2009
Posts: 255
Location: Plymouth

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 18:55    Post subject: fuel pump seals Reply with quote

Ok i'm the proud owner of a 1995 2.8TD SWB Pajero with 81,000 miles and having driven it from where we bought it one day when we came to start it the next morning it started ok and before we could move off the engine slowed and died. It didn't want to restart immediately but did after a few turns. This suggests to me that either we have aan air leak in the fuel line or more likely the fuel pump seals may be on their way out. It started fine this morning and hasn't shown any more symptoms.
I have 2 questions:
1. is my diagnosis typical of failing fuel pump seals?
2. do the seals get progressively worse and over what sort of time - just limited light use?
3. once the fuel pump seals have been replaced how long should they last - or do they fix it long term?

Is there anything else i should watch for?

Great forum and good to be among people who understand cars
Paul BArton
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
BIG RED
*******
*******


Age: 66
Zodiac: Pisces
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 2699
Location: NORTHWICH CHESHIRE

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 21:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like pump seal they do get worse and should be good for another 80000hth Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
emax
LifeTime Member
LifeTime Member


Age: 67
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 02 Aug 2007
Posts: 2277
Location: Purleigh

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 22:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello PB Very Happy

Before going down the pump seal trail, check all the fuel pipes and connections, put a new filter in it Idea . Every join and pipe must be perfectly air/fuel tight.

As it started the next day with no problem i am inclined to think that you got some air/blockage in the system.

Dont know if the shorties are the same as LWB but on the latter the fuel lines rust over the rear axle and on top of the tank. While you are checking there you can take out the tank filter and check that as well. The Fuel pipe from the Filter to the injector pump is a favourite one to become loose (and easy to get to Laughing )

See you after the mystery Laughing
emax
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
paulbarton
LifeTime Member
LifeTime Member


Age: 64
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 22 Apr 2009
Posts: 255
Location: Plymouth

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:21    Post subject: air in the system Reply with quote

Hi thanks for the thoughts re air in the system - that's my other thread and i'm just gathering information so far. Are there any other tell-tale signs of air in the system? I did a 138 mile  trip and recorded 26.3 mpg is that about right - stuck at 60mph as front wheels needed balancing and vibration above that speed not good.
regards Paul
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
paulbarton
LifeTime Member
LifeTime Member


Age: 64
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 22 Apr 2009
Posts: 255
Location: Plymouth

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:26    Post subject: more on the airleak i=on fuel system/fuel pump seals Reply with quote

Just started her this morning and again after 30 seconds she began to run slower and roughly and then picked up - my feeling is probably air in the system at the moment so I'm going to check/change the fuel filter and see if the problem goes away. I seem to have read that a piece of clear fuel pipe from the fuel filter to the injection pump inlet is a good way to see if there is air in the system - only temporary. I'll have a look at it and report back.
paul Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
saxmanles
Newbie
Newbie


Age: 68
Zodiac: Aquarius
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Posts: 1
Location: Chepstow

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 15:44    Post subject: sterting probs Reply with quote

hi all just joined and glad i did, had the starting prob for last 4months sometimes it starts fine and goes all day other days it stops after a few mins, having found the answer on here, any idea of the best place to buy the seals  

cheers,  Les
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
paulbarton
LifeTime Member
LifeTime Member


Age: 64
Zodiac: Taurus
Joined: 22 Apr 2009
Posts: 255
Location: Plymouth

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 16:07    Post subject: update Reply with quote

OK - had the seals done and the bearings and had the pump set up by a specialist and the difference is huge - starts first time evry time and never misses a beat - was a bit pricey at £750 but at least its a job that won't need to be done again in a hurry and it protects the engine integrity.
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club® Forum Index -> Starting / running issues All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 12, 13, 14  Next
Page 3 of 14

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum


All contents © Hobson's Choice IT Solutions Ltd 1997 on
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group