The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club®

Ian46 · Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:55 Post subject:

I registered my first Pajero in 2008. It was a lwb 2.5 Exceed. I took it to dreal at Laval dept 53. The guy went round it looking at the glass and the lights, everything ok there. Then he looked at the seat belts, and said there was no Emarks and he was going to contact Mitzy at Paris about them. And then we, I say we because he did not want to get his hands dirty, started to check for the vin numbers and the engine code. I could not find them because he was asking me to look in the wrong places!
The chassis number was 10" further back from where he said it was and the engine code was on the opposite end of the block. And I also had to make up a vin plate with the vehicle weight on it and pop rivet it under the bonnet some where. So it took 2 trips to get it sorted. Don't we love those people who are surposed to know what they are doing? Confused

Daisy · Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 15:02 Post subject:

i guess they see a lot of different vehicles to be fair, so can't be expected to know the foibles of everything.. Wink

OK, just had a look:

Paj ( 1995 LWB 2.8 )
No marks on front sidelight and indicator glass, but the repeater on the side IS Emarked. The rear light cluster, top red plastic has no marks, but the other two do.

2006 Shoggy:
No marks on either the front sidelight/indicators, but it's a whole light cluster with the headlights so I guess they go by the markings on the headlight glass ?
Side indicator repeater has no E mark.

gtland · * Joined: 01 Sep 2012 Posts: 13 Location: Normandie

My Shogun now has new UK MoT test so giving me more time to get Carte Gris.
Just popped out to look at front lights, and mine (97 UK Shogun) are E marked. In fact although the front indicator/side-light is all in one unit it is blessed with 2 E marks! one for each section.

Ian46 · Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:45 Post subject:

Oh, you lucky person. I'm going have to buy replacements before it goes to DREAL.

Daisy · Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:07 Post subject:

Ian46 · Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:36 Post subject:

Hi Daisy, I know what you're saying, it looks like we've got a jobs worth here as well. It happened to a friend with her Paj, no Emark's on the side lights and he refused to let it go. So she refused to go any further with getting the CG. That is why I've been asking if other Pajero's and Shoguns on here have got the Emarks. I can't remember if my first Paj had got the Emarks or not, but the little mirror was allowed to stay when it was inspected. It has now got to the stage where I'm not going to bother right now, but I may do something about it later.

Roadrunner2110 · ****** Joined: 08 Dec 2010 Posts: 2471

Hi

Following all the excellent advice on this forum I registered my Japanese grey import Pajero 2.8 TD in France some 5 years ago. I could only aquire a CoC of partial conformity due to the Japanese origins of the Paj. I changed the headlights and sidelights, the latter required by DRIRE (DREAL) as no E mark and apart from DRIRE messing me about having said they would accept photos and then changing their mind following many e-mails with the with photos I had to attend a second visit which took them less than 20 seconds to inspect and approve the changes. Unfortunately the trek to DRIRE was 1.5 hours each way. The headlights I used were new LR Defender LHD which cost £30 for the pair and £20 including postage for the pair of used indicator/sidelights. All told it had taken 3 months to immatriculate. If you have bull bars fitted at either the front or rear remove these before visiting DRIRE otherwise they may/will fail on these. Quite a polava considering the Paj was already registered in the UK. Oh, one other thing, I had to fit a new Vin plate under the bonnet giving various weights etc before I went to DRIRE and ensure the chassis number at the rear was clear and readable. (I refixed the original plate from under the bonnet onto the B post on the drivers RHS door jamb.

I must add that the POCUK UK website was worth it's weight in gold in preparing for this rereg which went relatively smoothly compared to others horror stories. I must say much of the French bureaucracy is unnecessary under the circumstances.

Roadrunner2110 · ****** Joined: 08 Dec 2010 Posts: 2471

Daisy · Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:25 Post subject:

Roadrunner2110 · ****** Joined: 08 Dec 2010 Posts: 2471

I have to admit Daisy that for me, and many others, your pathfinding articles on immatriculating a grey import Pajero in France made life very easy relatively. All credit to you for your clear descriptions and articles. Regarding trailers and their condition and overloading, I'm in entire agreement and this is one subject requiring an EU wide clear up. I have towed a Ifor Williams BV106 for years with a gross weight of 3.5 tons. There are few vehicles capable of towing such weights fully laden. I used an LR Discovery to great effect but I've seen much lesser vehicles attempting to tow them in the UK and indeed Brits in France. As for boat trailers, don't go there, they are often another 'special' type with total disregard for trailer maintenance or towing ratio's. As you say, I know where I would want to be when following trailers on a motorway. Admittedly in France there are the local loons with trailers overloaded which should have been scrapped 20 years ago but in general these are small trailers of 500kgs or less.

Once again, many thanks to you for your painstaking persistence on immatriculating in France which without many would have quit without even trying.

Daisy · Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 14:29 Post subject:

Pleased to be of help. I know just how hard it was back in 2008 - when I started on this journey, it was all quite exciting, but I have to say after vehicle number 8 I have had enough for a bit, and another 2hr wait in the Prefecture would probably see me torching the place.. Rolling Eyes

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In fact it was about 6 years before that I started research for the whole project of moving to France Wink

Here's my boat - a 'proper' one with sails Smile

Ian46 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:50 Post subject:

About 18 months ago, my friend decided to get the CG for her Pajero. I made up the new vin plate with the vehicle weights on it and stuck it to the inner wing, cleaned off the chassis for the chassis numbers and showed her where every thing was that she needed to know, and of she went. She was refused the CG because there was no E marks on the front indicator/side lights.
Last week Dreal got in touch with her because she hadn't complete the registration. So she asked me to help her. I trawled through feabay in all the EU countries looking for lights with the E mark and this is what I found on German fleabay, this is the item number;330755656673.
States in the advert they are E marked.
If any body else is in the same boat as me and my friend, then I hope this helps. Smile

Nickyblue · Newbie Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 3 Location: Los Angeles

Hi Everyone!
I imported my Mitsubishi Montero sport in France a few years ago. Could not get the papers ( certificate of conformity etc..) that i needed to get a licence plate. I am now moving back to the US and would like to drive it to Le Havre. But of course i am facing all the same paperwork issues. Getting the certificate for a "US " car. etc..
Has anyone been through this before and could help?
I am trying to avoid the changes the DRIRE is asking for, since i am sending it back home, i will have to change it all back to the US specs.

Appreciate your time and help!

Daisy · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:52 Post subject:

So you imported the car from the USA and now it's going back there ?
Personally rather than try registering here, if the car is possibly going to have to have changes made to make it EU spec, then change it all back, it would seem more sensible to me to investigate getting it trailered to Le Havre. Otherwise it would mean applying for a certificate of conformity as first port of call at Mitsubishi France, just like is outlined in the first post of this long topic. Do you have to have French paperwork to import the car back to the US, assuming that is what you want to do ?

Can't see how it could be financially in your best interests, unless someone paid the original import and is paying to send it back.. Confused