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alan · Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 18:00 Post subject: Propane Gas Refill

Hi All

Does anyone know how many litres of propane gas it takes to fill a 6kg bottle
I ave been looking at buying an adaptor to refill my bottles and would like to know if it works out cheaper than buying a ready filled botte
Thanks for any help or comments

Alan

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mark dale · Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 22:01 Post subject:

I've looked at these as well

alan · Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 23:08 Post subject:

Hi
Thanks for the reply
I think the LPG is about 58p a litre at the pumps so I work that out about £16
That I think is a bit cheaper

Alan

Lenny · Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:34 Post subject:

DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT fill up with those figures.

Ive been refilling mine for 2 years, ive even fitted my own filling system to my car as i was fed up lumping bottles in and out and some garages refusing to let me fill.

80% is what ALL gas bottles are filled to. They have to allow for 2 things:

1. expansion of the liquid in the bottle at different temperatures;

2. the expansion and pressure will literally *blow* AND WILL OVERFLAME any device such as cooker/fire etc etc.

All you will hear is a whoosh and the pressure and flame will shoot up the caravan wall. If your lucky not much damage, if not your vans gone and your dead.

80% isnt a guide, its a steadfast rule. Play with LPG and dont respect its pressure and you will get it wrong.

Filling the bottles works like this:

litres are roughly halk a kilo in weight, so a 6kg bottle will hold approx 12 litres of gas. BUT use the 80% and just fill to 10 litres, which at a garage will cost you around £5.50.

If you keep to nice round numbers its easy.

So a 13kg doubled will take 26 litres. again using the 80% fill up to 20 litres.

6kg = 10 litres

13kg = 20 litres.

You can go over the 20 to 22 on a 13, but thats absolute maximum.

Keep in mind that your bottle is never empty, there is always liquid left but no pressure to expel it.

Lenny · Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:43 Post subject:

While im on a roll:

It IS NOT illegal to fill your own bottles.

It is NOT ALLOWED to fill calor or any other dealers bottles as you never actually own the bottle, you only ever rent it.

Calor wont allow garage forecourts to let you fill because you can fill your own for a £5, or exchange it for £18. Who do you think is making the profit for the same gas. Not Calor.

I have found some that will turn a blind eye, which suits me.

But where i am there is only 3 garages that sell it, so i fitted a kit to my Sport to allow me to fill the same way as filling up an LPG car, now i can pull into any garage anywhere and just "fill up".

kalmac · Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 17:28 Post subject:

i had no idea i could refill myself!
i'm gutted i don't miss money savers normaly...
ok i have blue and red bottles both 6kg (with a spare for each) depending on summer winter use.
were do i get a refill kit???
thanks

mark dale · Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 18:13 Post subject:

propane autogas adapter in google or ebay gives a few results

I think care needs to be taken in refilling definately - look on youtube as well for some videos ..

mark " full of gas " dale

alan · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 20:28 Post subject:

Hi
Thanks for all the replies some really good information
Am I right in thinking only the red bottles can be refilled

Alan

mark dale · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 0:14 Post subject:

Yes, I think so, just the reds, as that is propane, the blues are butane, but both are LPG .... ? hmm - confusing !!

Mark " gas - or hot air? " dale

alan · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 19:34 Post subject:

Hi All
Well I have just refilled my gas bottles 2x6 kilos and 1x13 kilo bottles
Total cost £23 00
No problems at all and what a saving
I reckon it would have cost me about £52.00 if I had exchanged them in a garage

Alan Very Happy

mark dale · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 0:18 Post subject:

Not bad - just cost me £40 for 2 x 13kg exchanges

pity we don't have an lpg station round here - but at these price differences, worth getting some extra bottles, to fill up when convenient

what adapter did you use?

mark " cookin on gas " dale

alan · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 20:58 Post subject:

Hi Mark
I intend to fill up 3 or 4 bottles at a time that way it will only be 1 trip to the garage
A couple of my mates in the caravan club are going to share the cost of the adaptor so we will all benefit
I purchased it on that site we dont mention on here
Best place I found to get some empty bottles was our local tip
They sell them for a couple of quid each

Regards

Alan

NYRA · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 17:15 Post subject:

i know its a old post BUT ,,iv a better way of filling bottle than than adaptors off e,bay .. and i can fill upto four bottles at once and it stops when full Wink

and the garage cant see what you are filling

mark dale · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 17:21 Post subject: