View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
mobydick ***
Age: 43 Zodiac: Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 150 Location: co. antrim. northern ireland
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:22 Post subject: Difference between left and right caliper? |
|
|
Bought a new o/side caliper for back of my shogun. Fitted no problem, looking at it against n/side caliper it seems the same bar the bleed nipple being slightly higher. So.my question is could I rebuild my o/side caliper and fit to the n/side? The caliper seems symmetrical top and bottom all except the bleed nipple. Any ideas? Save me £100 on a new caliper.
Thanks |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Google Sponsor
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:22 Post subject: Google Ads keep the POCUK free to join! |
|
|
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
peacebank **
Age: 43 Zodiac: Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Posts: 54 Location: Suffolk
|
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 22:01 Post subject: |
|
|
Bleed nipple will be too low when put on the other side than it was designer for, so you won't be able to bleed all the air out of the system. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bradwell Boy **
Age: 65 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2020 Posts: 68 Location: Great yarmouth
|
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:13 Post subject: |
|
|
If you connect the hydraulic line up but do not bolt the caliper in position, you can hold it with the bleed nipple at the highest point, put a block of wood or similar between the pads and bleed as normal.
When you are happy its bled just bolt it in position. Job done. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mark3 LifeTime Member
Age: 61 Zodiac: Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 4016 Location: Rainham Village, Essex.
|
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:41 Post subject: |
|
|
Bradwell Boy wrote: |
If you connect the hydraulic line up but do not bolt the caliper in position, you can hold it with the bleed nipple at the highest point, put a block of wood or similar between the pads and bleed as normal.
When you are happy its bled just bolt it in position. Job done. |
Yes you could but its a lot of p1ssing about when you can just fit the correct part |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bradwell Boy **
Age: 65 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2020 Posts: 68 Location: Great yarmouth
|
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:53 Post subject: |
|
|
The OP was just asking if he could refurbish and fit. Agreed it would be great to just fit the correct one, but is it really a chore to bleed and then fit given the cost saving.
There is no safety issue here with imbalanced brakes etc which is what I read into the original question for reassurance. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mark3 LifeTime Member
Age: 61 Zodiac: Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 4016 Location: Rainham Village, Essex.
|
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 13:44 Post subject: |
|
|
A bleed nipple not in the correct place could also be an MOT fail too....
its just a bodge and in my opinion a bad one and all just to save a few quid |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bradwell Boy **
Age: 65 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2020 Posts: 68 Location: Great yarmouth
|
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 16:22 Post subject: |
|
|
Hardly an MOT fail if it isn't leaking. Don't see how its a bodge, but if you are a perfectionist then the N/S part would be the way to go.
If its bled and leak free under pressure, which is what the MOT tester will check,along with a road roller test for performance and imbalance, there is no issue.
That is in my opinion. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
assassin ********
Age: 64 Zodiac: Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: Wherever I Wander To -- Midlands
|
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:02 Post subject: |
|
|
They are an MOT fail and Mark is correct. It does come down to the quality of the tester though. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bradwell Boy **
Age: 65 Zodiac: Joined: 09 Oct 2020 Posts: 68 Location: Great yarmouth
|
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:59 Post subject: |
|
|
OK I stand corrected, thanks for that. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
assassin ********
Age: 64 Zodiac: Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: Wherever I Wander To -- Midlands
|
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:55 Post subject: |
|
|
Just for reference.
Bleed nipples are located in their best position for bleeding brakes, and also for limiting damage such as impact damage on an off road vehicle.
It often comes down to the perception of the examiner and as this is a crucial safety component they have immense powers, they could deem it a safety related failure for fitting the wrong part, they could deem it not appripriate for the ABS system not to function correctly, or they could assume the brakes are not bled correctly.
Their assumptions are taken as fact, they record MOT data online now and they can quickly accessed by anyone, insurers use this as a tool to whip you with, if an MOT examiner posts any reason for failure they examine it.
In my case my Shogun was written off in 2019 after some dick drove into the side of me, they tried to devalue my vehicle by claiming the rear suspension was faulty as the rear shocks were leaking; a quick check showed it was reported in the MOT that the shockers had a light misting of oil, they did, but it was the rubber lube I sprayed onto all the rubber bushes and not faulty shocks. It may have implications in the future which are not to your advantage, I disputed their claims and the garage which the vehicle was stored at stated (confirmed by CCTV) than nobody had examined my vehicle, so how can an assessor state something they haven't seen.
Fortunately I am legally trained so hit them with an affidavit and both the insurer and assessor ended up paying out the shortfall, not everyone is mechanically and legally trained and could be found guilty of something based upon historic paperwork. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|