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tom fenton LifeTime Member
Age: 43 Zodiac: Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 1700 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:08 Post subject: |
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Firkhamhall wrote: |
If you do not have category B+E on your licence, the maximum trailer weight you are allowed to tow is 750kg without brakes. You are not allowed to tow a braked trailer or any trailer over 750kg never mind what the max train weight or what your vehicle can tow. |
Incorrect.
You can tow EITHER an unbraked trailer up to 750kg OR a braked trailer providing that the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the MAM of the vehicle, AND that the combined MAM of the trailer plus MAM of the towing vehicle is less than 3500kg.
I have previously verified this with a traffic plod, and a B+E instructor. |
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Firkhamhall LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Bournemouth
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:10 Post subject: |
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jonnybobs wrote: |
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
From HERE
I have a CAT B licence
M.A.M is the same as M.G.W
My Caravan's MAM aka M.G.W = 1080Kg
Pajero's (assumed MAM) = 2360Kg
As I work in a caravan / trailer shop and sell caravans, I have to be 99% suer of the advice I give. Failure for me to give the correct advice means our insurance becomes invalid.
I have printed this and lamitated it in the shop |
Well you are wrong. It plainly says in all the legislation - People who passed their driving test after January 1st 1997 are entitled to tow An un-braked trailer up to 750kg |
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Firkhamhall LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Bournemouth
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:11 Post subject: |
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May be the braked bit is wrong but, anyone passing their test after January 1st 1997 can only tow a trailer up to 750kg. |
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jonnybobs LifeTime Member
Age: 41 Zodiac: Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 2000 Location: Luton / Dunstable / Houghton Regis
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:12 Post subject: |
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Firkhamhall, I've just taken it from the direct.gov.uk webstie, I don't think they can be wrong.
I mean I don't want to argue as we've all got one theing in common... Le-Pajero! Either way, what a truck they are! |
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Firkhamhall LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Bournemouth
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:13 Post subject: |
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Or I could be wrong lol. |
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Firkhamhall LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Bournemouth
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:16 Post subject: |
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I have always read it the other way round but, I just re-read that .gov bit and it is very confusing..... |
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mwilcock *
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 09 May 2011 Posts: 10 Location: wigan
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:17 Post subject: |
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thanks for the pic
Just had a look for mine again and all thats left is the pot rivets, looks like its been removed!
So i still need to know max trailer weight and max train weight for the 2.5 swb |
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Firkhamhall LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Bournemouth
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:26 Post subject: |
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mwilcock wrote: |
thanks for the pic
Just had a look for mine again and all thats left is the pot rivets, looks like its been removed!
So i still need to know max trailer weight and max train weight for the 2.5 swb |
Your VIN plate is not there?????? OMG how long have you owned it?? |
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mwilcock *
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 09 May 2011 Posts: 10 Location: wigan
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:37 Post subject: |
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About a month.
The chassis number is wrote under the bonnet next to the other silver tag.
Im not worried 1 bit the 4x4s legit its probably fell off or something.
Still need to know stats for swb.
Whats the stats on your lwb. Mine cant be much different. |
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jonnybobs LifeTime Member
Age: 41 Zodiac: Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 2000 Location: Luton / Dunstable / Houghton Regis
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:42 Post subject: |
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Hmm, Vin plate gone?
Just a silly Q, how do you "know" it's legit? Those kind of things send alarm bells ringing... Especially for these cars. back in the day their theft value was massive and they were going missing all the time back in the 90's!! (The cars not the plates) |
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mwilcock *
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 09 May 2011 Posts: 10 Location: wigan
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 15:49 Post subject: |
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I have full logbook
previous mot's till 2008
Letter of receipt from a car sales
Thats about all i have but without being rude im not here to discuss that i just want to know what i can tow with this vehicle after i have done my b+e category
Thanks |
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jonnybobs LifeTime Member
Age: 41 Zodiac: Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 2000 Location: Luton / Dunstable / Houghton Regis
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 16:10 Post subject: |
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After your B+e = yes! |
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mwilcock *
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 09 May 2011 Posts: 10 Location: wigan
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 16:18 Post subject: |
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i know that i can tow but i want to know what weights
i need to know the max train weight of swb shogun 2.5td
i also need know the max braked trailer weight
thanks |
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Firkhamhall LifeTime Member
Age: 60 Zodiac: Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Bournemouth
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 17:11 Post subject: |
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Right, I stopped a mate of mine (yes I have friends lol) in his 2.5 SWB his VIN plate along with his VIN number shows
2510
5310
1-1100
2-1650
So - 5310kg - 2510kg = 2800kg
I know you don't want to discuss it but, does your log book say Shogun?? |
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mwilcock *
Age: 37 Zodiac: Joined: 09 May 2011 Posts: 10 Location: wigan
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 17:27 Post subject: |
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yes it says shogun mate
its grey
rear difflock
manual
cruise control
mph clocks |
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